pgrilo wrote:Hi Tony!
I have a little bug for you to hunt, sorry..It easily reproducible:
Set Hyperspaces desktop above icons. (I have to hide my messy desk, as it is my cluttered code testbed)
Make an invocation of Spaces (like F8), click a window, move it to another space and chose that space..
The Hyperspaces desktop will be located in a wrong offset, making the real desktop below visible.
This happens every single time. (I'm sure it didn't happen with some previous builds)10.5.6
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4GB RAMSorry for the trouble.
Actually I fond out that when I'm trying to move an app window to other space I'm moving the HS window.
This only happens with HS window above icons..
That's definitely a bug, and it's no trouble. I'll add it to the list of things I need to fix - thanks for posting it.
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I have been playing with this latest beta and am quite happy with it. I do have a couple of questions though. First, in the Sparkle update notes, I thought I saw it say that each space would have the option to control menubar transparency, I do not see this option in the Preferences. Has it not been implemented yet?
That was a feature of previous versions, and I did remove it. Basically, it was causing some stability issues and really didn't add much to the experience (in my opinion). If you're going to use custom desktop backgrounds, you'll basically need to disable the menu transparency - and complain to Apple (I have). There's no fast, straight forward way for me to update the area behind the menu bar.
Second, when using the Low Memory Drawing feature (enabled), the option to have multiple desktop backgrounds is bypassed, however, if the option to show desktop backgrounds in the Space Switcher is enabled, it still shows the various backgrounds, even though they do not appear in use for the actual desktop spaces. Not sure if this is a bug or not, just caught me by surprise.
Low memory mode should still let you set a background image for each of your spaces - if it's not, that's a bug!
Lastly, I notice that the "Show Hyperspaces in menu bar as:" option has a check mark in front of it, but is grayed out. Does this mean that disabling the menubar icon will be a selectable setting in an upcoming iteration? I'd personally like to see that, as I am content to use this via keyboard hotkey, and bypass the presence of Hyperspaces in my menubar.
Yes, this will be added in a future version. It's disabled at present because I'm still trying to work out how to enable/disable the dock icon and leave code signing on.
Aside from those questions and comments, Tony, I am very happy to see that you have indeed vastly reduced the memory footprint of this app on my machine, with the appropriate settings enabled and/or disabled as necessary. You've done what you said you would do, and I commend you for your effort and response to the calls of your user base. Great job, Tony!
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Many of us prefer to download an update and not use internal update functions.
Why?
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My point about posting the update was not to post the update in the forum, but update the version that shows in our loot. Is that not possible? Many of us prefer to download an update and not use internal update functions.
I honestly don't know. I'll talk to the MacHeist guys about it - what is the problem with the sparkle updates?
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python29 wrote:Many of us prefer to download an update and not use internal update functions.
Why?
Well in my instance I like to keep the latest version in my MacHeist files folder. I have been responsible for 6 purchases of the MacHeist3 bundle and I keep a Dropbox repository of the updates for my family & friends that participated in Macheist or subsequently purchased.
Only 3 of us have Hyperspaces mind you (you snooze you lose with these heist apps
) and I have yet to try Hyperspaces out as I'd previously configured Dockspaces & Spacesuit.
This new update reminded me that it is time I switched over.
Mark.
PS. If 4 spaces is enough is there any benefit in converting to Hyperspaces?
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Why?
several reasons. apple provides 3 update methods. delta, combo and internet. many people have had trouble with internet updates. also, you may only need delta, but you might download combo for future updates and new computer installs.
automatic updates are designed for the less tech savvy users.
if the developer ceases business, no offense Tony, and only internet update is available then you would not be able to use the latest version.
a fully updated version is easier to install on a new computer instead of having to install the buggy version and then run the internet updater.
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My copy of Hyperspaces just expired a day ago or so. It was an ok app to try out, even if it was a shorter tryout that I had expected.
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You should be able to click the "Check for updates..." button to get the latest non-expired beta. Hyperspaces is not a time limited trial for MacHeist - I just expire my betas to get users to update to the latest build.
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So I'm ready to finally try my Hyperspaces beta from Macheist out. I'm currently using DockSpaces & Space Suit and would like to know what Hyperspaces will bring me that I don't already have?
Is the Macheist version suitably stable as an alternative to my current setup? I'm happy as I am but curious to take a look at Hyperspaces.
Mark.
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I tried the early versions out a bit and didn't have any stability issues...... only realized that the benefit for my type of usage is rather minor. sad, since it's a really nice designed app (actually I could start changing my habbits to run more software.... hmm.....)
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You should be able to click the "Check for updates..." button to get the latest non-expired beta. Hyperspaces is not a time limited trial for MacHeist - I just expire my betas to get users to update to the latest build.
Yes. Odd... I wonder how I did not notice that big button!
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My beta has expired, and when I try to update using the internal engine, I keep getting the message:
Update Error! An error occurred in retrieving update information. Please try again later.
Any help? I can't seem to use the app anymore, and I was getting pretty fond of it.
Thanks.
I hasn't got around to installing Hyperspaces, I'd got as far as removing Dockspaces & Spacesuit so it looks like I'll need to be re-installing them then
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Mark.
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Just update through the automatic update and you'll be fine. Mine still shows macheist version. I think if you download it from his site, it doesn't know you got it through macheist. I hope that helps.
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Great to hear pro-active & helpful support efforts, thank you.
I am intending to try out my Hyperspaces very soon, I have been using a free solution using Dockspaces & Spacesuit and didn't previously want to mess with my settings.
The file MacHeist3_Hyperspaces_652.zip is still available for download in our Loot repository, is this the lastest/best version to install?
Thanks,
Mark.
Also replied by support email as per message request bought thought the answer may be of use to others.
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Okay, I wanted to try the latest hyperspaces to see if it does what I want, but I'm stuck.
I have Snow Leopard installed now and hyperspaces won't run. And since it won't run, I can't use the update method to get the newer version. I have beta7 and beta9 is the latest I believe, and that's the version that added support for Snow Leopard.
How can we update on Snow Leopard? Maybe a newer download is needed now?
Thanks
Hi @cmason, I've e-mailed the directorate about getting the updated build into your loot, but in the meantime you can e-mail support@thecocoabots.com for a direct link.
The reason I don't post the link is because there is functionally no difference between it and the paid version - and the free version is for you Heisters only ![]()
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Hi @cmason, I've e-mailed the directorate about getting the updated build into your loot, but in the meantime you can e-mail support@thecocoabots.com for a direct link.
The reason I don't post the link is because there is functionally no difference between it and the paid version - and the free version is for you Heisters only
Hi, thanks very much. Fortunately I have already worked around the problem by booting from my old Leopard backup and doing the update from there.
That's why I like you Heisters - always solving your own problems! Good to hear you got it sorted - I will still follow through on trying to get the updated version into everyone's loot.
Update: The directorate have put Hyperspaces 1.0b9 up in your loot (if you already had Hyperspaces) - feel free to grab it from there if you'd like a newer copy and don't want to use check for updates!
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Is it still possible to get this application from the loot section? I didn't pick it up earlier this year...
It is still in the loot section. did you participate in the heist? otherwise you won´t be eligible to download it.
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Forgive me for digging this thread up from the grave, but I have a question. Now that v1.0 final has been released, 1.0.1 is out even, are we entitled to that 1.0 version, or is Beta 9 our last copy to work with without being required to purchase?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
- Brian
Beta 9 is the last one. 1.0 is the first sort of public build, which you'll have to buy.
A quick jump over to the developer's website reveals the following...
I got Hyperspaces through MacHeist - why don’t I see any updates?
The version of Hyperspaces that was given away as part of the MacHeist promotion in 2009 was for a specific release - version 1.0. If you'd like to continue receiving updates (until version 2.0), please purchase a license.
This seems to somewhat contradict what matthewlowery stated as it looks like loot owners are entitled to 1.0.
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Loot owners are entitled to 1.0. Hyperspaces 1.1 and greater is where the entitlement ends.
If you're having trouble, download a copy of the original version from the loot page and check for updates - 1.0.1 should be available to update to. If you switch to receiving preview builds (under Updates in the prefs), 1.0.1.1 will be available.
Have fun!
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Loot owners are entitled to 1.0. Hyperspaces 1.1 and greater is where the entitlement ends.
If you're having trouble, download a copy of the original version from the loot page and check for updates - 1.0.1 should be available to update to. If you switch to receiving preview builds (under Updates in the prefs), 1.0.1.1 will be available.
Have fun!
I did the update to 1.0.1 and lost my license. In my case that's okay, because I'm not using it, but this might be a problem for others.
Btw, just to repeat from several months ago, if you add a pager to the menubar (so I can single-click to switch spaces) and an option to disable all animation (making space changes instantaneous) this is a product I would definitely be interested in buying.
Thanks.
I did the update to 1.0.1 and lost my license. In my case that's okay, because I'm not using it, but this might be a problem for others.
Yes, this is definitely a problem. I'll talk to the Directorate about updating the version in the loot and post back here when it's done. Thanks for pointing this out.
Btw, just to repeat from several months ago, if you add a pager to the menubar (so I can single-click to switch spaces) and an option to disable all animation (making space changes instantaneous) this is a product I would definitely be interested in buying.
I've mostly got the non-animated switches (and Virtue-style transitions) working in my internal builds, so they'll be in a future build (probably 1.1 or 1.5). I would also like a pager in the menubar - it's on the list, but I haven't started working on it.
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Thank you very much for all the quick and helpful replies!
I also appreciate Tony popping in for clarification, as the reason that prompted my question was my losing the app's registration upon updating to the v1.0.1 yesterday.
As per our previous interactions, Tony, I appreciate your work on this app. I'm happy to use it, as well as recommend it to others. Good work!
- Brian
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Edit:
Right I can't seem to update and I just get this in the license section on the preferences.
So can we update, or do we need to purchase a license?
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OK guys, I've just fixed the link from the loot page. Go grab a copy from the MacHeist loot page and you'll get the latest copy of the MacHeist Hyperspaces build. I'm planning on one more minor point release (1.0.2) before I stop updating this version of Hyperspaces and move on to 1.1.
If you want to keep receiving updates at that point, you'll need to purchase a license - but for now, there's really no need ![]()
Off topic a little, but it's exciting (for me): Hyperspaces is the featured Staff Pick on http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ right now - w00t!
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I had all but written off Hyperspaces since it wasn't really working for me with the prior version. I'm glad to see that there's a new version that I can use. Devs like you make this experience that much more enjoyable.
I did find two possible glitchs, too. They don't bother me in the least, but I figured you might want a look at it in case you haven't seen it before. Spacing issue:

And the other is that I can't switch spaces with Exposé going (Show Desktop). I don't even think this is an issue of yours, but instead a limitation of Apple's.
Anyway, thanks a bunch for keeping us in the loop, even after all these months. I really appreciate that. <3
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Thank you again, Tony, for updating the app for us. I appreciate all the support and feedback you've given us over the past months here. I look forward to buying Hyperspaces when the time comes.
Oh, and congrats on the Staff Pick over at Apple.com, you deserve it!
- Brian
No worries guys! I'm really enjoying it.
Miah, thanks for the bug report - can you describe how your screens are setup? (or alternately, post a picture of System Preferences > Displays > Arrangement).
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I also had to congratulate Tony, too and state that everyone I know, like toddo, wants to know how I added the labels to the desktop picture and change pictures between spaces. I make sure to tell them.
The app is perfect for its current state of features, but I have one complaint. I love to use the Time Machine-styled screen saver for my desktop picture, which, of course, isn't a standard feature. Hyperspaces does not support this. If I were able to use a screen saver and Hyperspaces for my desktop picture, I would be extremely happy.
Thanks.
P.S.: I thought developers were labeled so below their avatar on MacHeist.
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I love to use the Time Machine-styled screen saver for my desktop picture, which, of course, isn't a standard feature. Hyperspaces does not support this. If I were able to use a screen saver and Hyperspaces for my desktop picture, I would be extremely happy.
If you're willing to give up per-space desktop images, you can do this now. Just go into the settings for each space and uncheck the Show image: On Desktop checkbox (under the Image tab). This will let whatever is beneath Hyperspaces show through (and still let you have desktop labels and a basic coloured tint).
P.S.: I thought developers were labeled so below their avatar on MacHeist.
I'm not sure? I haven't really looked though.
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chrischasecranecook wrote:P.S.: I thought developers were labeled so below their avatar on MacHeist.
I'm not sure? I haven't really looked though.
They are identified as such. I'd contact a moderator to add you as a developer.
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tonyarnold wrote:chrischasecranecook wrote:P.S.: I thought developers were labeled so below their avatar on MacHeist.
I'm not sure? I haven't really looked though.
They are identified as such. I'd contact a moderator to add you as a developer.
One of them will probably see this and do it anyway without being asked... that’s how great our moderators are!
Tony,
I know this might not be the best place to post this, but I can't seem to get pathfinder desktop to work with hyperspaces. I have the latest build 1.0.3. I launch pathfinder first then hyperspaces and it doesn't show the background or the title on the background. Any idea what I should do? Thanks for all your help as always:).
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Tony,
I know this might not be the best place to post this, but I can't seem to get pathfinder desktop to work with hyperspaces. I have the latest build 1.0.3. I launch pathfinder first then hyperspaces and it doesn't show the background or the title on the background. Any idea what I should do? Thanks for all your help as always:).
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I'll have to take a better look once I'm home (I'm at my parent's house for christmas until tomorrow) - last I checked, there's no consistency which window level developers use to put things on the desktop. I spent a long time getting Hyperspaces situated right so that it does not interfere with Exposé, and it's probably put the window level lower than PathFinder's desktop. Can you ask PathFinder not to draw the desktop and get Hyperspaces to hide the desktop icons? Or is there more to PathFinder that would be missing if you did this?
I may end up need to talk to the developers of PathFinder directly to figure this out (I said I'd do this once before and didn't end up following through - sorry about that).
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Thanks for the quick response! I am not sure how to get Pathfinder not to draw the desktop. There is a menu item you mark that says show pathfinder desktop. This basically set's pathfinder up as the finder so when you click on things on your desktop (files or drives) it launches pathfinder instead of the finder window. There is no preference that i could find (there may be one I just don't know what it's called) that says don't draw the desktop. It would be great if pathfinder just linked to the icons somehow but I am sure it has something to do with how integrated finder is with the system. Thanks for looking into this Tony! Hyperspaces is an excellent program, one I use everyday!!
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Tony and everyone I just discovered how to get hyperspaces and pathfinder to play together. Go to the FAQ at http://cocoatech.com/faqs#6 and follow the directions. It works well. Make sure in step 5 you actually check "Hide Finder's desktop" and relaunch the finder and you should be all set. For those who don't want to look it up, here are the steps:
1. show the pathfinder desktop (path finder>Show Path Finder Desktop)
2. Bring the desktop forward (click on it and make sure it is the front most item).
3. Open the view option palette (view>Show view option or command J): you should see "show desktop options" at the top.
4. Click on the "set colors.." button, select Desktop in the drop down menu, and make sure that "show desktop background" is NOT checked.
5. Now you'll need to deactivate the Apple Finder's Desktop. In Path Finder, open (Pathfinder>Preferences) and switch to "General". Uncheck "hide Finder's Desktop" and relaunch the finder when asked (here I made sure "hide Finder's Desktop" was checked).
That should do it. So far it is working. I just have to figure out how to make sure it boots into this mode anytime I restart my computer. Thanks again Tony!
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Wow - good catch, toddo. I'll talk to the CocoaTech guys about putting a link in my FAQs to theirs. Thanks!
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