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Sometime after the code for Heist 1 is found, I will set up a blog to post the codes to for any of those people who do not wish to play the missions (even though you should, as they're quite fun) so they can just get the loot.

It will be up in a little while.

Edit: When I post it, it will be available here.

Don't create a blog just to get traffic to your own site.  post the walkthrough here.

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Not a walkthrough; just a place to quickly look for the code to punch it in.

http://mhspoilers.blogspot.com/

I have posted the code up here.

Could you explain how you got that?

I got stuck after figuring out how to open the .bf file at Pirate Bay, I never could get the to the dmg. Was the code on the dmg? I'm guessing that the clue limerick involving P Prime Prime had something to do with getting the code to open the dmg, but I couldn't figure that out.

This is my first time in this game and I am trying to learn.

Thanks.

You're scum.  Nothing but a low-life.  I suspect that you're a cheat in real life as well.

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I'm am trying to understand how this works and you want to insult me?

What is wrong with you?

Not you.  I'm referring to the OP.  If I was referring to you, I'd quote you.

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i think warbrain was referring to knds

Doesn't work for me. Maybe it was changed?

Hopefully it did.  Because of jackasses like the OP they would need to.

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Sorry but you didn't quote the OP and I thought you were referring to me.

Is your beef with the OP about funneling traffic to the blog?

Still would like to understand how anyone cracked the dmg code. I thought I was doing well to figure out the Pirate bay connection from the references of "waters" and "underbelly of the web." But the limerick stumped me. All I could get on the P Prime Prime reference was a wiki entry about old programming code.

My beef with the OP is that he's such a scumbag that he'll just post the code and that's it.  THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS.

As for the cracking, in the .bf file there's a reference to some obscure code and it translates into the password if you find a translator online.

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the readme file that came with it...

it had .bf on the end... stands for a computer language... google it:

"Brainf***

When I came across a page about Brainf*** (which I prefer to call BF) written by Urban Mueller, I immediately felt in love with the language."

Then find a BF interpreter, google is your friend... paste the whole readme

then the password for the .dmg is there...

There are walkthrough threads posted here in the Backroom, codes and all. That's what it's here for.

Don't post blogspam.

@donebyleee: Warbrain was directing his comments at knds, and rightly so. What he's doing is a slap in the face to the Directorate and the work they've put into this heist. He's directly profiting off of their hard work by garnering page hits - that's just so wrong on so many levels.

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Got it.

Well, thanks to those who got me to the dmg. After watching the video I think this is all beyond me.

I don't see what the big deal is. There aren't any ads on the site so it's not like he's pushing traffic to make money. Page hits don't just automagically become revenue.

Posting the solution on a blog doesn't give away anything that couldn't be found by clicking on the stickied thread in this forum. It does however get around digging through 10+ pages of "whats a dmg file guyz??!?" posts. The RSS feed is handy too.

Thanks knds.

But the whole point of this isn't to be a whore for free software as knds believes it to be.  He doesn't believe in actually working as a community, figuring it out, and getting the reward at the end.  He believes in being a leech and posting the code without any work, cheating the developers and the Directorate.  It's a fucking disgrace and knds is fucking scum for it.  He's a lowlife.

Edit: From the wiki...

STOP POSTING THE CODES.

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I have posted a response to your criticisms here. To summarize, if you do not wish to read the full post: I do agree that completing the heists are the fun part of MacHeist, and I do not wish to anger anyone. I will be posting a walkthrough on that post, as well as all future posts, with full credit to the authors of the walkthroughs. I do not wish to cause trouble.

I do not believe the site's purpose is to let one "be a whore for free software" at all. However, there are people who do believe so, and my postings are simply to help those people do exactly that.

If you don't believe that people should come here for just the software but then you're doing it yourself by posting the code for everyone you're contradicting yourself.  Just stop posting the codes.  Post a walkthrough, leave the code out.  People need to do at least ONE thing to be able to get the loot.

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Warbrain,

Do you not believe it is beneficial to get as many people in on this as possible so we can raise more money for charity and the developers when the final bundle is released??? 

I love solving the heists, but I know people who don't have the time.  They work, they have families, etc. and just can't put in all the time some of us can.  They love to follow along, get some shareware, but in the end they buy the bundle which benefits everyone.  If they couldn't get the code each time quickly, they wouldn't follow, would lose interest, and wouldn't buy the bundle. 

Just chill out.  You can do the work yourself and have fun doing it.  Why does it matter what other people do to get the loot?  It doesn't affect you at all.  Be glad more people are gonna be a part of this so more money can be raised in the end.

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It defeats the purpose of all of this.  It's taking away from the developers and taking away from the Directorate, all of which put money into this.  I would say that it's likely that those who just punch in the code will NOT purchase the bundle when it is released as they got what they wanted.

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I know there are some freeloaders out there who might be happy with getting some shareware, but most people I know are very busy professionals who love Macs, love independent developers and cool apps, but just don't always have the time to complete each heist. 

Even a walkthrough can feel like it takes an eternity when a baby is crying and a wife is wondering what in the heck her husband is wasting time on, lol. 

I think there is room for everyone at the table.  The freeloaders, the diehard heist solvers, the curious newbies, and everyone in between.  Let's all enjoy MacHeist in our own different ways and hope that we can raise a ton of money for a good cause AND promote some of the amazing Mac app developers who work so hard to give us quality products.

All you need is LOVE

Maybe it's just me being one of the original members of the forums and feeling like an old fogey...

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Yeah, honestly, I tried to do the heist and here's what happened: found the torrent, but it was going real slow cause my stupid ISP (I hate you Sympatico) was throttling the BitTorrent bandwidth. So I get nollid07's megaupload link and get the darn thing. OK, now I got one thing I don't know the password to and some other .bf file. Get on the spoiler thread and find out the password for the DMG and view the DVD. OK cool, go to the mirrored iMac. But after that, I pretty much thought to myself "Fudge it, let's get the code!".

I don't mean to criticize the heists, they're great for those have the motivation to really do them as they're intended and everything, but some of us just don't have that time or motivation.

Back on my two feet

As a fellow old fogey, I cheat on all the heists. And I bought the bundle.

Not as senior on the forums as I, but we don't need to start another thread along these lines as we have before...

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Warbrain, like it or not, some people are just here for the free software. There are some weeks when I don't have time to do the heist, so I just look for the code, too.

People that just get the codes aren't taking anything away from the developers. You doing the heists does exactly nothing for the people providing this software. The only way you can help them is to buy the bundle, software, or to just donate money.

Furthermore, as the OP isn't putting ads on that blog, he won't gain a dime from it. Also, he isn't posting the codes on a personal blog, so he isn't going to benefit indirectly from this either.

While I can sort of see what you mean about putting the codes in the forums on MH, it's sort of a pain to have to dig through ten or twenty pages of posts to find a code. Moreover, I would argue that he is actually helping out the developers and MH by attracting people to the site (and thus the bundle sale).

And, on a personal note, don't pull rank on people. It's sad and childish. Being one of the first people here or the one with the most posts doesn't make what you say more valid than what anyone else does.

I downloaded the dmg file and bf file from megaupload, as well. Unfortunately, the bf file had zero kb and no info in it. So I was reduced to peeking. I HAD found out the file type and dled a translator, but had to find the file contents elsewhere. Then there was extra crap in the decoded code (that made no sense) so I then asked about for hints. Elsewise, I would be stuck. I am now stuck elsewhere...

So, see, posting some of the info ain't so bad. Heck I get bored with shoot-em-ups, go out and get the god cheats just so I can get on with it. It stops being fun when you're bleeding out your ears and cursing everyone who'd ever even THOUGHT of whatever it is.

"What? No small-talk? No chit-chat? That's the trouble with the world these days. Nobody takes the time to do a real sinister interrogation. It's a lost art." - James Bond, Goldeneye

I believe people here have different skill levels when it comes to computers and sometimes they can get really stumped if they are not as savvy as others. Posting walkthroughs and helping them "cheat" as some may call it gives people who would normally lag behind and eventually quit MH a chance to stay in the game and keep moving with the rest of the heard. If this is a true community than we are all in it together and must help one another.

This is meant to be fun and do some good in the process, fighting over the ideology of it just doesn't make much sense.

I think some people have the wrong idea of what I was mad and still am mad about:

I have no problem with making walkthroughs for people.  However, a user needs to do at least one step to get the look, so leaving out the code makes the most sense as a user can get that themselves and get the loot.  That's fine.  I have no problem with that

However, I am FULLY against posting just the code on a blog for everyone to get the loot.  To allow people on the web to just get the code and, at that point, steal the software is wrong.

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It is shareware.  There is nothing to steal.  The developers just want to get their apps in the hands of as many people as possible. 

Ask them.  They will tell you.  The more people who try out their shareware the better the chance someone will buy the full app. 

I completed all the heists last time.  I'm not a newbie.  The fact is no matter how they get it, more people getting the code and using the apps is better for the developers and the entire MacHeist community in general.

All you need is LOVE

Amen

Supergreen!!

Beside the fact that I find it downright stupid to start a dedicated blog about something that already has at least 2 different and very good homes, this forum and the wiki, I have to point this out. The code on its one is of no use. The point is you have to reach some "checkpoints" somewhere before the code is any good.

Joel has a very good point. A lot of apps in MacHeist (eg. 1Password from MH1) are given to us on a limited license. Even if people do "steal it" (which isn't really stealing, but I'll give it to you), hopefully they will pony up for the update. As such, even posting the codes with no steps in between helps the developers and encourages them to invest in MH.

TheExion: That is simply untrue. I did absolutely nothing for the current heist besides typing in the code, and it's sitting in my loot right now.

I agree definitely agree with Warbrain on this point. Don't just post a code, and NEVER just post a code on your own website. There is no reason to do that besides get traffic. If you want to make a normal walkthrough, just do this:
***highlight to reveal spoiler***

code:
[ quote]
[ b]
1.[ color=#f1f1f1]Good job, you highlighted this text.[ /color]
2.[ color=#f1f1f1]This is step two[ /color]
3.[ color=#f1f1f1]And step three[ /color]
4.[ color=#f1f1f1]etc.[ /color]
[ /b]
[ /quote]

If you don't like the length of walkthroughs, then simply skip to the last step.

I agree with Wabrain and Cypy on this as I did participate in the original MacHeist. I did both things tried to figure out the puzzles on my own but did use the walk throughss as well. With that being said yes some of the guides were long but in the end using the walk throughs as a guide to check myself it paid off in the end. By that I mean by the middle of the heist last year I was able to figure the puzzles out on my own for the most part. As far just posting the codes on your personal website or blog thats total crap.

Ditto, wincendf. I was in last year but just worked quietly at it without getting involved in all the discussions - I get headaches from reading 22 pages of random speculation... without trying to think of something useful to add when I have nothing new to say.

The walkthroughs help those of us who don't have time to spare or are struggling with some part of the heist, but it's just wrong to post the codes somewhere outside of MH.

Well Said!!!
I ran into a few problems of my own but the spoilers forum helped to move me right along.

Warbrain it also seems like you want to discredit everyones idea of what this or that may be for a clue.  That is what makes it fun is that it could be any one of those ideas or it could be none of them we just don't know yet.  You don't have to agree with what someone thinks what a clue is or isn't but don't try to discredit their idea(opinion and everyone is entitled to that even you are WarBrain) because you don't agree with them!!

Side Note:
WarBrain with all your cursing it also is a bit childish.  There is no need to curse to get your point across besides that, this is not the curse forum!!

Go Orange Team!

The loot is meant to be a prize for your effort, at least as far as I can tell. I do have sympathy for those without a lot of spare time to dedicate to this task, but I lose it quickly when you complain about the state of the help you're given (that is, the 10-20 page topics meant for people who just need a little nudge and not a "cheat"). I think you ought to put in a little work, or at least take what's freely offered and not complain about it.

As for posting the code on a blog, it undermines the point of the heist in the first place. It's just not cool. I have a hard time believing the free-loaders who'll search for the code and put in no more effort than is required to do that will at any point pay for the updates down the road.

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That may have been true in this particular heist, but I can assure you that was not the case in MH1. You had to follow the trail all the way or the numbers didn't work. And I'm sure that will be the case in future heists. But I totally agree that posting the codes on websites not affiliated with the community is just plain lame.

I'm shooing down ideas because I'm testing them out myself.  If you're willing to actually look and understand that, fine.  But you're not.  Don't make this into a flame thread.

Also, what cursing?  I rarely do it.  It happens, we all curse.  Get over it.

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I understand what you're trying to say, but I think you misunderstand why Warbrain "discredits their ideas" Warbrain has been around since MH1 and knows much more about what are "clues" than some of the new people around here. For example, there have been threads made that are talking about an old MacHeist puzzle someone found. Obviously, it wasn't a clue, and so they were just wasting their time working on it. Also, many newer heisters aren't quite used to the way we are fed clues. When we get one, it will be from an obvious source, like the briefings page... it won't simply be mentioned by someone in an IRC chat. Once a heist starts on the other hand, following the path of clues can be a bit less obvious.

That all seems well and good, but what of the mini-heists? Are they as cut-and-dry and the primary heists? Will we know for sure what starts one of those?

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I'm not even entirely sure if there will be mini-heists this year, though I expect there will be. We will definitely know when a Mini-Heist starts.

Mini-Heists are not listed under the Briefings page.

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As I remember it last year, miniheists were like a normal heist in that it was easy to know when they started.

Hate to say it, but I understand fully.  I actually missed Heist 1 completely, just didn't have the time!  Would have loved to grab the code and loot, then go through and try to solve it on my own when I had time - they closed it so fast I just wasn't able to get to it.  Having a 1-month old baby and 2 others at Christmas time, along with some other things, and trying to do the Heists - takes all the fun out of it.  Especially when it uses a code like BF, which is just plain offensive to me.  Still, there were some other cool parts now that I had an hour to try and catch up on at least part of what I missed...

Whistle while you work.  Patience is key.

Exactly.  I think I'm the oldest member on the forums who is still actively taking part in conversations.  I know what the deal is, I know what to expect.  Don't think that just because I'm shooting down every idea makes me a jackass.  I know what works, I know what doesn't, I know how the Directorati will contact us.

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I wouldn't be too sure of that Warbrain...if there's anything I've learned from the Directorate, it's to expect the unexpected.

EDIT: I will agree that if a mini-heist does occur, we'll surely know about it, though it won't be through the official channels.

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Drat, I just checked and it seems your first post in the MacHeist 1 forums came roughly 4 hours before my first post... making you effectively "an older member."