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AppZapper 2.0
Sweet!
Please, don´t stop bitching here, if it´s obvious that it motivates the developer.
Would someone like to bitch about the handling of disc images? Please?
February 29, 2008 12:56 pm
jpdyson wrote:
Meh... still can't get the "advanced features" of smoke on my MBP (santa rosa). Now the "delicious factor" is still invalid. Back to burn.app...
thats odd 
i can get smoke on my G4, G5, and Intel Core 2 Duo iMacs.
February 29, 2008 1:58 pm
Oh, I get smoke, but it's just the two-toned, no options smoke. I tried it on my iMac at home and had way more options. I read somewhere that it had to do w/performance specs. Now that disco is only $20, if I could get this figured out (and if spanning worked for me), I might just purchase a license.
February 29, 2008 6:17 pm
rampancy wrote:
EDIT-XTREEM wrote:I don't get why people expect these apps to take such little amounts of development time. Do you expect the next great app to be made overnight?
I think that's precisely it. People want the latest and greatest, on their desktops, and they want it yesterday. Oh, and yes, they do want fries with that.
Greatness isn't instantaneous - or have people forgotten just how long (and painful) it took for us to get from System 7.x to Mac OS X?
I don't really think that's a fair comparison. Apple only purchased NeXT in December of 1996 and 10.0 was released about 7 years later (March of 2001). Obviously 7 years is quite a while, but I'm sure Apple didn't start working on Mac OS X the day they bought NeXT - they had to get familiar with the code and plan for how it would be used. Therefore, I'd postulate that it actually took them much less than 7 years to "write Mac OS X". Either way, Mac OS X is a complete operating system - and there were huge changes made in both the core operating system and the userland programs. A cocoa program, even though potentially only written by one person, does not hold and candle to amount of work it requires to create an OS.
Also, in the mean time, Apple kept us updated with releases of the original Mac OS which also added substantial features. So, unlike some of the developers people complain about, Apple did keep us updated.
That said, I do understand what you really mean and agree with you for the most part. I do not know the scope of the project in question. It may be very large and require a huge amount of work. If, however, it turns out to be another one of those which is fairly simple and basically ties together a bunch of freely available libraries - then I do defiantly think people have a legitimate reason to complain. Time will tell.
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March 1, 2008 4:53 am
Isn´t 2001 minus 1996 something around 5, not 7?
And 5 years is about the time, MicroSoft needed to try and understand the XP code in order to get Vista out 
March 1, 2008 7:53 am
@ktx - Developing the bulk of the app is not the issue. 9 times out of 10 you will get to where you think its releasable and then spend 2 months (or some other equally in-proportionate amount of time with the beta team tracking down a bunch of unforeseen bugs.
Developing may not always take a huge amount of time all the time but it usually takes longer than you think it would!
March 1, 2008 9:24 am
medienhexer wrote:
Isn´t 2001 minus 1996 something around 5, not 7?
And 5 years is about the time, MicroSoft needed to try and understand the XP code in order to get Vista out
Not even 5 years - it's less than 4.5 ;]
And I would wager that MS doesn't fully understand the code under XP. I look at some of the features and the way some things work, and have to think "that just happened... it was never planned like this.. right??"
March 1, 2008 12:17 pm
Wasgo wrote:
CTYankee wrote:What can I say...hype sells and why deliver what you promise to customers when you've already got their money? You may say thats not a fair assesment...well go look at the Disco page. The last update was less than a month after the release and then nada...zip. Lots of 'we are going to do this and that' and yet not so much as an bug fix update (there are bugs you know) in a year and many not getting support they need. Sorry, that is inexcusable and unethical.
I agree. While taking a break is reasonable, there is a huge gap between what was said and what was done. Call it hype or call it promises, but people bought under certain expectations that Austin created. To walk away from those expectations for almost a year without so much as a post is unacceptable.
And now a bug fix...yet the features I was told via email would be fixed have not (disc spanning issues). I was assured it would be fixed. I nearly bought the app on his word. Good thing I decided to go with a sure thing and get Toast.
March 2, 2008 8:07 am
medienhexer wrote:
Isn´t 2001 minus 1996 something around 5, not 7?
And 5 years is about the time, MicroSoft needed to try and understand the XP code in order to get Vista out
True. I was pretty tired when I wrote that. Yeah, I know, lame excuse 
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March 2, 2008 10:22 pm
xaMax wrote:
austinsarner wrote:... Application ADD...
If you go to this website you find comment 5:
Now, instead of nurturing the projects they've already got going or at least fulfilling promises they've made (MyDreamApp!), I hear they're working on [REMOVED AT REQUEST OF PHIL RYU].
interesting to read...
Sadly it was to late for google cache to read what has standed there before
I hate when people keep secrets.
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March 2, 2008 11:00 pm
applenerd96 wrote:
xaMax wrote:austinsarner wrote:... Application ADD...
If you go to this website you find comment 5:
Now, instead of nurturing the projects they've already got going or at least fulfilling promises they've made (MyDreamApp!), I hear they're working on [REMOVED AT REQUEST OF PHIL RYU].
interesting to read...
Sadly it was to late for google cache to read what has standed there beforeI hate when people keep secrets.
I also don't know it...
I just found it interesting that there IS a secret
How many "What is your favourite ..." threads do a forum need?
March 3, 2008 12:17 am
March 3, 2008 5:10 am
Man these guys must seriously be focusing on the coding right now - they're not even answering support emails! 12 days since my first request for support and 5 emails later, I still can't get a word out of them. Now I see why they shut down the blog. VersionTracker and iusethis it is...
March 13, 2008 11:43 am
jpdyson wrote:
Man these guys must seriously be focusing on the coding right now - they're not even answering support emails! 12 days since my first request for support and 5 emails later, I still can't get a word out of them. Now I see why they shut down the blog. VersionTracker and iusethis it is...
Um, yeah. Sure...coding. Thats why you have not gotten anything.
I sent a few just to see if things were fixed etc. Not a peep either. On the other hand other developers respond in hours.
March 13, 2008 2:25 pm
jpdyson wrote:
perhaps since they're pretty buddy-buddy with the folks that run this place they'll get a nudge.
Good plan.
I actually talked to Austin about this and he told me to tell you to email him directly about the issues. He's out of town now but checking his email.
He says that their support guy is very adamant about getting responses out quickly so it's very likely that your emails have been spam-filtered or something.
His email is austinsarner at mac dot com
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March 14, 2008 8:04 pm
johnred wrote:
jpdyson wrote:perhaps since they're pretty buddy-buddy with the folks that run this place they'll get a nudge.
Good plan.
I actually talked to Austin about this and he told me to tell you to email him directly about the issues. He's out of town now but checking his email.
He says that their support guy is very adamant about getting responses out quickly so it's very likely that your emails have been spam-filtered or something.
His email is austinsarner at mac dot com
Thanks, John - I figured since you guys knew more about what he's been going through lately, that you might be able to tap him on the shoulder and let him know. I appreciate that - I just emailed him.
March 14, 2008 9:14 pm
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April 12, 2008 3:54 pm
In Austin Sarner's aim status:
April 12, 2008 4:06 pm
definetheline wrote:
In Austin Sarner's aim status:
Judging by his track record I'd say get on with life and when its done it will be done. Don't expect it soon, or ever really. His stuff is basically take it as it is. If you like it how it is now, buy it. Just don't expect anything more than that.
April 12, 2008 8:14 pm
yeah, i see the title of that page is now "this summer." i guess i'll switch to one of the alternatives, although this is disapointing because i felt like i was getting a properly working appzapper soon by purchasing and supporting the app rather than using a fake serial or crack for free.
does anyone know have to entirely delete appzapper? ironically, it seems to want to stick around (like in the right click > more > automator menu).
thanks
April 13, 2008 6:28 pm
pharmakon wrote:
i felt like i was getting a properly working appzapper soon by purchasing and supporting the app
What are you running that AppZapper doesn't work properly for you? It works fine for me on an Intel Mac running OS X.5.2.
April 13, 2008 9:22 pm
I actually just started trying out some other deletion tools. I would say now that apcleaner is probably better than appzapper. I was a huge proponent of AppZapper, got a license for my company, etc... but it has fallen pretty far behind. The auto delete on trashed app function in appcleaner, hazel, etc is extremely convenient and to take it a step farther, programs that log are out... I actually am kicking myself for just buying xSlimmer as CleanApp does pretty much everything it does... but no biggie, I think xSlimmer probably is a big 'safer' with undo features, and the like.
Back to topic.. i'll revisit AppZapper when 2.0 arrives, I will say I am glad I didn't buy Disco.
April 19, 2008 11:48 am
AppZapper misses a lot of files. Go into your Library or System folder and see all that is left behind.
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April 19, 2008 12:47 pm
macdude22 wrote:
Is there some functionality that appzapper is missing? I drag an app, it deletes it and it's support files. Seems fine to me. I can't honestly imagine what else could be added, I don't need extra fluff.
Hazel does this automatically when you drag an app to the trash. Appzapper requires you open Appzapper, drag the file over and zap it. Hazel, just drag apps to the trash. No need to add an extra step.
April 20, 2008 7:00 am
May 2, 2008 9:02 am
monopolist wrote:
Here is something to chew on:
Which was posted several weeks ago... 4/12 to be exact.
May 2, 2008 10:51 am
spyker3292 wrote:
EDIT-XTREEM wrote:At least you know how to code! lol.
I don't think anyone deserves crap for being slow, my theory is that the longer it takes to develop it, the better it will be.
That's obviously Nintendo's theory as well. But it's true.
If it were true, Windows would be the most awesome OS around...
May 13, 2008 7:00 am
Bruce Anderson wrote:
spyker3292 wrote:EDIT-XTREEM wrote:At least you know how to code! lol.
I don't think anyone deserves crap for being slow, my theory is that the longer it takes to develop it, the better it will be.
That's obviously Nintendo's theory as well. But it's true.
If it were true, Windows would be the most awesome OS around...
What they fck are you talking about?
Windoze has always released things early, but they suck balls. This is the opposte of someone like Austin. He is trying to make AppZapper 2 great before he gives it to us...
May 13, 2008 12:15 pm
alloutmacstoday wrote:
Bruce Anderson wrote:spyker3292 wrote:That's obviously Nintendo's theory as well. But it's true.
If it were true, Windows would be the most awesome OS around...
What they fck are you talking about?
Windoze has always released things early, but they suck balls. This is the opposte of someone like Austin. He is trying to make AppZapper 2 great before he gives it to us...
The problem w/the logic relating to Windows is that Microsoft tends to both release things early and late simultaneously. They always miss projected deadlines, but their products are never mature until at least SP1. Also, you can't really apply the same logic to an operating system or an office suite as to an application remover.
And how long it takes the customer to see the final product has no direct relationship to how much time and effort the developer is actually putting toward your particular product. This can be seen rather simply in the case of App Zapper, where the same developer has many other projects (all of which need attention). It's not a stretch to assume he's having difficulty determining priorities and deciding where to focus his efforts. Of course, this doesn't even account for "real life" issues he may or may not be encountering. The truly frustrating thing is that none of the projects are seeing significant progress in the user's eyes, so it follows that many would think the developer is simply not doing anything. Not a statement of fact or personal belief, but an observation of the present condition.
I'm not defending him, nor am I condemning him. Is there too much on his plate? Probably. Is that making development slow for all of those things? I imagine so. Is the product YOU'RE waiting on going to be better because it is taking so long? Who's to say that for sure - in all fairness, he could be working on it night and day or hardly at all.
May 13, 2008 12:24 pm
alloutmacstoday wrote:
Bruce Anderson wrote:spyker3292 wrote:That's obviously Nintendo's theory as well. But it's true.
If it were true, Windows would be the most awesome OS around...
What they fck are you talking about?
Windoze has always released things early, but they suck balls. This is the opposte of someone like Austin. He is trying to make AppZapper 2 great before he gives it to us...
Windows XP took five years from the date of announcement to its eventual release. Vista took seven. That's what the "fck" I'm talking about.
ETA: and just to be clear, I was trying to make a little joke. Either I wasn't funny or you have no sense of humor.
May 13, 2008 11:19 pm
jpdyson wrote:
monopolist wrote:Here is something to chew on:
Which was posted several weeks ago... 4/12 to be exact.
Who wants to bet that AppZapper will be renamed AppStabber 
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May 13, 2008 11:35 pm
October 4, 2008 4:35 am
kcwookie wrote:
AppZapper does still work, but Disco is a little flaky. I would love to see Disco updated.
yeah right...has that kid ever stuck with a project?
AppZapper? nope..."this summer"? Already fall and nada. Free upgrades for life = no reason to upgrade.
Disco? Got it working...kind of...then just one x.0.x update in nearly 2 years.
My Dream App...so everyone enjoying Cookbook? Oh, right...he flaked again.
He's good at doing little projects, hyping them up, taking the money and then ????
October 10, 2008 11:28 pm
October 11, 2008 2:50 am
Chriswan wrote:
version two. design by a knife
more like:
version two. design by a ton of distraction and lazyness*
*Lazyness is usually used by people who are too lazy to subsitiute the y for an i
You see... he replaced his mouse with a knife (which explains the design by a knife). Then he accidently cut off a few fingers, and now it's hard to code...
October 11, 2008 3:31 am
October 11, 2008 4:03 am
Speaking of Disco, the last thing he did was break the interactive smoke because, allegedly, something in the then-current OS update made it unstable or something. So, one of the biggest eye-candy features of the app is now a non-feature. And let's be honest - eye-candy is what sells that app. By the way, that was months ago - and his site still advertises that feature. I propose a new advertisement
"DISCO IS ABANDONWARE. YOU'RE BUYING DEAD SOFTWARE."
October 16, 2008 12:01 pm
All this yapping about Austin, wow what a contrast from when the apps were originally released hehe. While I sympathize as I would love to see a Disco 2 and an Appzapper 2 cut the guy a little slack as he is an excellent coder and I think we will see these projects materialize some day. Personally I think he is just overwhelmed and has his hands in too many pots. Appzapper, Disco, MDA, MH... Can anyone say burn out?
Austin, Summer has come and gone how about an update on your updates?
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October 21, 2008 5:06 am
NeoX wrote:
All this yapping about Austin, wow what a contrast from when the apps were originally released hehe.
I'm sure the apps showed promise, and the developer was casting a lofty vision for where they would go.
While I sympathize as I would love to see a Disco 2 and an Appzapper 2 cut the guy a little slack as he is an excellent coder and I think we will see these projects materialize some day.
If only hopes and wishes were as useful as actual applications... I'm not sure slack is merited here. We're not seeing any results on any projects. Either he's terrible at time management/project management, or he's just not interested in fixing problems for current customers. Neither show that he is an "excellent coder" in any way.
Personally I think he is just overwhelmed and has his hands in too many pots. Appzapper, Disco, MDA, MH... Can anyone say burn out?
Again, poor time/project management. Not a reasonable excuse for lack of production, and in no form an excuse for a lack of communication.
Austin, Summer has come and gone how about an update on your updates?
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October 21, 2008 1:44 pm