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Sophia

Staff

111 posts

Good Work Agents!

From your reports it seems that "The Source" has led us to an incomprehensible file. In order to extrapolate any intelligence from this file, enter the location of it to the mainframe (http://mainframe.macheist.com) for analysis.

In the meantime have received another two more messages from "The Source". I couldn't make heads nor tails of it, but maybe one of you mavericks can figure it out. Here's the message:

The Source wrote:

KDNRAAOVSNGTJGZQBQISRBJHSDSQTSLA

The second enigmatic message came from a different point of origin, but was flagged because of it's similarity to another post-mission report.

The Source wrote:

Um das hier zu lösen ist dein Scharfsinn gefragt. Es ist eine knifflige Aufgabe… ein Paradoxon… ein Dilemma. Verwende die Walzen Drei, Eins und Zwei. Setze dann die Anfangspositionen auf M, I und A. Stelle schließlich das Steckerbrett so ein das O mit F, P mit Q, W mit S, E mit R und Z mit I tauscht. Viel Glück du Armleuchter…Finden die meisten verbindlich Simulator.

I have a sudden craving for schnitzel!
Sophia

January 6, 2009 8:12 pm
Triniguy

Triniguy

Tinkerer

from Kalona, IA
21 posts

What's that supposed to mean?

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January 6, 2009 8:18 pm
thekryz

thekryz

Gearhead

from Germany, Deutschland, Alemania
93 posts

basic translation:

use waltzes three, one and two. Then put the beginning positions to M, I and A. Then adjust the board so, that O exchanges with F, P with Q, W with S, E with R and Z with I.

The last phrase doesn't make any sense in German.

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January 6, 2009 8:19 pm
thekryz

thekryz

Gearhead

from Germany, Deutschland, Alemania
93 posts

I remember this from MH2...
Google Translate says for the last part: "Find the most authentic simulator"

The gates in my computer are AND, OR and NOT; they are not Bill.

January 6, 2009 8:20 pm
badams

badams

Gearhead

from Norman, OK
50 posts

This is what I got from Google Translator.

"In order to solve this is your acumen asked. It is a tricky
Task ... a paradox ... a dilemma. Use the three rollers, one and
Two. Set the top positions at M, I and A. body
Finally, the plugboard so the O with F, P with Q, W and S, with E
R and Z with I exchanged. Good luck ... you candelabrum finding the most
authentic simulator."

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January 6, 2009 8:20 pm
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,889 posts

There was a web site from one of the missions last year which was a simulation of the infamous Enigma device. It used rotors to encode letters into a coded message of formidable strength.

Now, where was the url for that? I don't remember...

EDIT: Actually, I remember that I think we were referred to this app, which is an Enigma simulator for OS X

http://www.xat.nl/enigma/

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January 6, 2009 8:28 pm
vallnerd

vallnerd

Urchin

from Slobovia
7 posts

From the terms used (cylinders/"rings", "Steckerbrett") and the German, I'd say The Source is referring to the Enigma cypher machine. The last sentence is probably supposed to mean something like "use the most accurate simulator", since not all support the steckerbrett or changing cylinder order.

Trying to find one that will decrypt the chunk of text to something sane right now.

(Yay, first time I'm working on an ARG.)

. o O ( ORANGE! )

January 6, 2009 8:29 pm
subpop

subpop

Tinkerer

24 posts

Enigma simulator from last year: http://www.terrylong.org/

January 6, 2009 8:29 pm
bmistudioa

bmistudioa

Tinkerer

from Delaware, OH
47 posts

I'm lost...

Please visit www.familyradio.com for information concerning the END OF THE WORLD!

January 6, 2009 8:29 pm
vallnerd

vallnerd

Urchin

from Slobovia
7 posts

The terrylong one isn't accurate enough.

. o O ( ORANGE! )

January 6, 2009 8:30 pm
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,889 posts

Try the app here: http://www.xat.nl/enigma/

I think it's billed as being the most accurate simulator for the Mac.

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January 6, 2009 8:31 pm
delhokie

delhokie

Tinkerer

from Delaware
36 posts

I posted the link to the image in the mainframe and now that blurry bluish/greenish file from the swords of television shows up there, but now i'm lost.

January 6, 2009 8:31 pm
n3mo

n3mo

Gearhead

from here
53 posts

guitardaddy, thats the maze right? the path spells that out...trying to figure out if that means anything.

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are you nobody - too?

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January 6, 2009 8:31 pm
LordZog

LordZog

Automaton Tech

264 posts

n3mo wrote:

guitardaddy, thats the maze right? the path spells that out...trying to figure out if that means anything.

The reference of the message spelled out in the maze is to the remote control in the photo: the sword of the television generation, i.e. move your mouse over the remote.

Why do people seem to think they have the right to not be offended?

January 6, 2009 8:36 pm
guitardaddy76

guitardaddy76

Automaton Tech

from Sweden
219 posts

yes, this is not an eye trick either.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is tying it's shoes."  -  Mark Twain

January 6, 2009 8:37 pm
guitardaddy76

guitardaddy76

Automaton Tech

from Sweden
219 posts

okay, i think this is a 3d image, need something to render it. check out truevision3d.com

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is tying it's shoes."  -  Mark Twain

January 6, 2009 8:42 pm

timoteo

Urchin

1 posts

Enigma translation of source reads:

"TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT"

January 6, 2009 8:44 pm

Marzelpan

Urchin

9 posts

The message decrypts to

TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT

January 6, 2009 8:44 pm
phillipsmn

phillipsmn

Tinkerer

from NC
29 posts

delhokie wrote:

I posted the link to the image in the mainframe and now that blurry bluish/greenish file from the swords of television shows up there, but now i'm lost.

I got the same result. A quick look at the page source labels the div as "pieces" which means that probably each clue will lead to another piece of the problem.

A fool is one who does not understand the proportionate value of things.

Go BLUE!

January 6, 2009 8:45 pm

fireguy.ed

Urchin

1 posts

t ftp worm zapper the app get enigma txt

January 6, 2009 8:47 pm
pnomolos

pnomolos

Tinkerer

from BC, Canada
30 posts

tftp wormzappertheapp.com
tftp> get enigma.txt
Received 66 bytes in 0.0 seconds
tftp> quit

Purple team for president!

January 6, 2009 8:48 pm
vallnerd

vallnerd

Urchin

from Slobovia
7 posts

timoteo wrote:

Enigma translation of source reads:

"TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT"

Out of interest, which simulator did you use at which settings? Couldn't for the heck of it get anything sensible out of the four I tried.

. o O ( ORANGE! )

January 6, 2009 8:48 pm
dlehman

dlehman

Urchin

9 posts

"New Members can not post links, images or email addresses until they become more active."

WTF? How many posts constitutes "active"?

January 6, 2009 8:50 pm
dlehman

dlehman

Urchin

9 posts

Anyways, apparently I can't post the link, but the "enigma.txt" file contains the URL of the second colored image.

January 6, 2009 8:52 pm
jm123

jm123

Tinkerer

from Los Angeles, CA
43 posts

That file links to wormzappertheapp. com /b5cabcde1533bd90d8551748bb583fba.tga

Go team orange!
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January 6, 2009 8:52 pm
fjjinsfca

fjjinsfca

Automaton Tech

from El Paso
103 posts

Thanks for this lil' tip.  I was a bit confused with the site.

I mean, surely you've heard the expression 'don't count your chickens'? Well, APPLY IT!

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January 6, 2009 8:55 pm

kaltekar

Urchin

1 posts

Contents of enigma.txt

http hmm/wormzappertheapp.com/b5cabcde1533bd90d8551748bb583fba.tga

January 6, 2009 8:57 pm
orlina

orlina

Gearhead

from Chicago
70 posts

entered the new text into the mainframe.macheist.com page and the image was added to the first one. looks like we're building up to something.

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January 6, 2009 9:03 pm

realkato

Urchin

3 posts

I also got TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT. For reference, I used Terry Long's simulator from terrylong.org. In the preferences, I set the rotors to III, I, and I (but left the "ringstellung" on A for each, and the reflector as B. I set the wheels on the main board to M, I, and A. Then I brought up the Steckerbrett window and connected O to F, P to Q, and so on.

I'm trying to TFTP the enigma.txt file from "wormzappertheapp.com" but it's timing out. But I see others have already successfully retrieved the URL.

January 6, 2009 9:03 pm
Jolaedana

Jolaedana

Gearhead

from Colorado Springs, CO
73 posts

Actually, to clarify sharky05- it isn't the exact same image. A similar pattern, different color. Wondering if these images will eventually connect? I'm new to Heists, so still trying to puzzle out how they work. smile

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January 6, 2009 9:05 pm
phillipsmn

phillipsmn

Tinkerer

from NC
29 posts

after tftp-ing wormzappertheapp.com open the enigma.txt file and enter the link in the mainframe. You get another piece of the puzzle.

It's similar to the first, but different color and slightly different pattern.

A fool is one who does not understand the proportionate value of things.

Go BLUE!

January 6, 2009 9:06 pm
giacgbj

giacgbj

Tinkerer

from Bologna, Italy
47 posts

It seems a sort of puzzle, and we need 7 more pieces smile

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January 6, 2009 9:07 pm
zarathos

zarathos

Tinkerer

from Canada
23 posts

From the looks of the mainframe output, each clue links to a piece of the puzzle, so yes, they will connect up eventually...just need the rest of the clues to fine the rest of the pieces.

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January 6, 2009 9:07 pm
sleepygecko

sleepygecko

Tinkerer

33 posts

Thanks for the website link... the tftp kept timing out on me. Boo.

January 6, 2009 9:15 pm
fjjinsfca

fjjinsfca

Automaton Tech

from El Paso
103 posts

"In order to solve this is your acumen asked. It is a tricky task ... a paradox ... a dilemma. Use the three rollers, one and two. Set the top positions at M, I and A. body finally plugboard so the O with F, P with Q, W and S, E with R and Z with I exchanged. Good luck ... you candelabrum finding the most authentic simulator."

I mean, surely you've heard the expression 'don't count your chickens'? Well, APPLY IT!

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January 6, 2009 9:15 pm

RotaJota

Urchin

1 posts

the enigma.txt file has another link to put into the mainframe

it yields another image on the bottom right corner of the first

January 6, 2009 9:18 pm

ricewing

Urchin

1 posts

Hmmm...

Translated the above code to:
   TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT

adding spaces:
  TFTP WORM ZAPPER THE APP GET ENIGMA TXT

TFTP is Trivial File Transfer Protocol, a minimal implementation of FTP that is built into OSX that is used for file transfers (no directory listing or other niceties).

The last part of the translation is in the form of a command for TFTP that would retrieve a file "ENIGMA.TXT".

I don't know what worm zapper the app is (nothing on google) so I'm wondering if it's a server name.

I fired up terminal, launched TFTP and tried getting ENIGMA.TXT by connecting to wormzappertheapp.com with no luck. Tried both wormzappertheapp.macheist.com and just macheist.com with similar results.

I'm probably missing something obvious.

Any ideas?

January 6, 2009 9:21 pm
iCondemned

iCondemned

Urchin

from Dallas, Texas
5 posts

I'm confused... what am I suppose to be doing again?

January 6, 2009 9:34 pm
MattNZ

MattNZ

Automaton Tech

from New Zealand
129 posts

ricewing wrote:

I'm probably missing something obvious.

Any ideas?

look at kaltekar's post above

A Clockwork Orange

January 6, 2009 9:48 pm
chrisbarth

chrisbarth

Tinkerer

from Fresh Blue State
27 posts

Markierte Drähte zeigen Verschlüsselungsschritte = "Marked wires encryption steps show"

APPLES AND ORANGES

January 6, 2009 9:57 pm
agburanar

agburanar

Gearhead

from Hof
55 posts

http wormzappertheapp.com
/b5cabcde1533bd90d8551748bb583fba.tga

Purple team rising...

January 6, 2009 10:05 pm

Audiomind5

Urchin

4 posts

TFTPWORMZAPPERTHEAPPGETENIGMATXT

January 6, 2009 10:24 pm

schtroumpfes

Urchin

1 posts

anyone got the enigma.txt file?
I tried but it said
"Transfer timed out."

January 6, 2009 10:26 pm
uscatu

uscatu

Urchin

from Danmark
3 posts

i got the picture... looks like when celluloid burns...

January 6, 2009 10:27 pm

danybrancho

Urchin

3 posts

does anyone know anything about Secondlife...? i heard they have these things that change their shape when you use certain images... i looked it up... they are called "Sculpted Prims"

January 6, 2009 10:31 pm

jenfester

Guest

Oh bloody heck, I give up.  This is way beyond my comprehension.

If someone would only tell me what the app is, I'll go try the demo and buy it if I want it.

And I thought I was a geek.  Wow.

January 6, 2009 10:36 pm
anzanello

anzanello

Tinkerer

from Porto Alegre, Brasil
22 posts

Thank you for the help! Got the second image, bottom-right...

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January 6, 2009 10:40 pm
gogocosmonaut

gogocosmonaut

Urchin

from Seattle
1 posts

dlehman wrote:

Anyways, apparently I can't post the link, but the "enigma.txt" file contains the URL of the second colored image.

just change it to hxxp or something else or throw spaces in it.  dawtcom, etc.

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January 6, 2009 10:41 pm

abluemoonnight

Urchin

1 posts

i am confused, nothing happens when i put anything in the mainframe

January 6, 2009 10:46 pm

suneet

Urchin

1 posts

If someone could be so kind as to give some instructions on how to use tftp I'd be eternally grateful smile

January 6, 2009 11:09 pm
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