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iLori

iLori

Automaton Tech

from Cascades
251 posts

Just wondering if anyone's had any "Ryan Bell" spam.

I don't think I've rec'd anything, but my spam doesn't live long.

Parenthood is like being pecked to death by a duck

November 28, 2006 6:18 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

who the hell is ryan bell?

November 28, 2006 6:23 am
iLori

iLori

Automaton Tech

from Cascades
251 posts

There's a new memo.

Parenthood is like being pecked to death by a duck

November 28, 2006 6:26 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

ahhhh......hmm odd, very odd......not sure to take it at face value or if we should be searching for something ......why mention "the amazon"???

and the RSS feed is updated...great

November 28, 2006 6:31 am
trademark

trademark

Urchin

4 posts

nice link in your sig iLori...


But you spelled "morale" wrong...

November 28, 2006 6:39 am
archipenko

archipenko

Big Game Hunter

767 posts

if the memo is really saying what its saying then perhaps

the amazon = amazon.com?

but a search of usernames results no ryan bell....hmmm

rocks & socks

November 28, 2006 6:41 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

click your amazon sigs yall......yikes

November 28, 2006 6:42 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Also, a new forum post says for people to click on "The Amazon" link in their sigs.  it sends you to a macheist.com/stuckintheamazon, with text that you can manipulate...hmmm.

November 28, 2006 6:42 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

lyrics are a song from "the clash"

November 28, 2006 6:47 am

Declin

Tinkerer

49 posts

Got to sleep but still haven't figured this out... hopefully it's still up in the morning.

November 28, 2006 6:50 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,875 posts

From the looks of things it seems like the idea is to manipulate the text of the song lyrics...a hidden message revealed after dragging the extraneous bits to the trash?

EDIT: I don't know if it'll help, but here are the full lyrics:

Police and thieves in the streets

Oh yeah!
Scaring the nation with their guns and ammunition
Police and thieves in the street
Oh yeah!
Fighting the nation with their guns and ammunition

From genesis to revelation
The next generation will be hear me
From genesis to revelation
The next generation will be hear me

And all the crowd comes in day by day
No one stop it in anyway
And all the peacemaker turn war officer
Hear what I say

(Vocal ad lib)

Police, police, police and thieves oh yeah
Police, police, police and thieves oh yeah
From genesis oh yeah
Police, police, police and thieves oh yeah

Scaring, fighting the nation
Shooting, shooting their guns and ammunition

Police, police, police and thieves oh yeah
Police, police, police and thieves oh yeah
Here come, here come, here come
The station is bombed
Get out get out get out you people
If you dont wanna get blown up

(Vocal ad lib)


EDIT 2: Okay, so it seems that the lyrics posted on the stuckintheamazon site are subtly different from the actual lyrics...I tried dragging the words that didn't fit to the trash (and then I clicked it) but everything reverted to its original state.

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 6:50 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

The "here come" line at the end seems out of place

November 28, 2006 6:55 am
thaliana

thaliana

Tinkerer

29 posts

"scaring" 2nd line is linked to "streets" 1st line. As far as I can tell, no other text is linked, although looking at source may be a typo, like the page title "police & theives"?

Yes, this game really does encourage paranoia & conspiracy theories!

November 28, 2006 6:57 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Well, nothing happened when I matched up the lyrics correctly by removing extra words

November 28, 2006 6:57 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

wait...maybe if I put together the words that I took out...

November 28, 2006 7:01 am
thaliana

thaliana

Tinkerer

29 posts

Clicking trash resets the page

November 28, 2006 7:02 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

The removed/out of place text says "things get better over time"

November 28, 2006 7:03 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,875 posts

Wait, I think I have it.

We're supposed to drag the right combination of words to the trash and then click on it; those words probably being those out of place from the song lyrics.

But which words exactly? And in what order?

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:05 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Got it!! -- Alarm Clock Pro that is

November 28, 2006 7:07 am
atticusrex

atticusrex

Sky Pirate

from dfw
1,025 posts

We who used the Badges earlier are being in a way punished while the others are being soothed by now knowing all will be ok in the near future.

At least that's my take on this latest development.

Been Drinking the Mac KoolAid since 1984
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November 28, 2006 7:07 am
trademark

trademark

Urchin

4 posts

Sweet loot!

This thread needs a spoiler alert now.....

November 28, 2006 7:07 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

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3,875 posts

Yes! I got it!

EDIT: Yeah, got beaten to it, probably by a few seconds. Way to go, uvablue. smile

Someone slap a spoiler warning on this, quick!

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:08 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

done and done.....good call on the text dragging

November 28, 2006 7:13 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Thanks rampancy...first time I've actually solved something all by myself...I feel like one of the big kids now!

EDIT:  Also, thanks for the lyrics rampancy.  They were obviously very crucial

November 28, 2006 7:13 am
archipenko

archipenko

Big Game Hunter

767 posts

Photo678 wrote:

click your amazon sigs yall......yikes

woah. shit. cool.

right on, rampancy.


i liked the whole classic --> to X thing. schweet.

rocks & socks

November 28, 2006 7:13 am
atticusrex

atticusrex

Sky Pirate

from dfw
1,025 posts

I just wish the new refreshed page stayed around longer.

That was a sweet image.

And it was fun figuring it out... but Kudos to rampancy for the lyric's heads up!

Free Booty too!

Sweet!

Thank You MacHeist

Been Drinking the Mac KoolAid since 1984
See You in the Land Of The Useless
Neon Charity Films

November 28, 2006 7:17 am
flec65

flec65

Big Game Hunter

from Montréal QC
504 posts

Shweet! Kudos to rampancy and uvablue!

November 28, 2006 7:20 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,875 posts

Yeah, I actually went through the puzzle again just to see the beautiful screenshot image. (Who would have thought I'd call a screenshot "beautiful"?)

Anyway, for those of you worried about upgrades, it looks like the version of the loot we've been given is a build that's even newer than the one posted to their site.

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:20 am
flec65

flec65

Big Game Hunter

from Montréal QC
504 posts

Apps keep getting better.
Can't wait for the heist #3...
and the final bundle!

Wait...
Alarm Clock Pro: is there something hidden in it?... wink

November 28, 2006 7:22 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Ok, not to over think things, but does anyone think the "things get better over time" removed words mean anything?  I already googled them with "The Clash" and they are not part of any of their songs.  I assume this is just a subtle message from the directorate telling us the apps/macheist gets better as we move on, but you never know!

EDIT - Good point flec.

November 28, 2006 7:28 am
trademark

trademark

Urchin

4 posts

I think it might mean to revisit the puzzle. Did anyone else notice the two apps to either side of AlarmClock Pro that had no icons?

November 28, 2006 7:29 am
atticusrex

atticusrex

Sky Pirate

from dfw
1,025 posts

uvablue: I think it has something to do with the app we just got.  I just wonder if they have a hidden code in it to go off at a set time?

flec65 could be on to something.

or we need it for the actual heist 3 so is this the heist 2.5 then?

Been Drinking the Mac KoolAid since 1984
See You in the Land Of The Useless
Neon Charity Films

November 28, 2006 7:31 am
oneill.bt

oneill.bt

Tinkerer

from Canada
37 posts

Nice, got it!

"The universe.  What a concept."  --  Eric Wareheim

November 28, 2006 7:32 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,875 posts

uvablue wrote:

Ok, not to over think things, but does anyone think the "things get better over time" removed words mean anything?  I already googled them with "The Clash" and they are not part of any of their songs.  I assume this is just a subtle message from the directorate telling us the apps/macheist gets better as we move on, but you never know!

If you think about it, the image you start out with is a sepia-toned desktop (no doubt colored that way for the "old time" feeling) that looks like it was taken out of a System 6-era monochrome 68k Mac. After you drag the words in order to the trash you're taken to a sharp, shiny and bright Tiger-era desktop.

Yeah, I guess things do get better over time (though in the minds of fanatical zealots like the 68k Liberation Army, "better" is a subjective term...)

EDIT: Wow, didn't even notice the extra stuff on that ACP splash page...

EDIT 2: uvablue, the help menu for ACP sends me to a Help Viewer file, not to TextEdit...I've also looked through ACP via the usual "Show Package Contents" etc. business...haven't seen anything out of the ordinary yet...

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:32 am
TechPepsi

TechPepsi

Tinkerer

from Thoiusand Oaks, calif
39 posts

atticusrex wrote:

uvablue: I think it has something to do with the app we just got.  I just wonder if they have a hidden code in it to go off at a set time?

flec65 could be on to something.

or we need it for the actual heist 3 so is this the heist 2.5 then?

love the icon

Mirage City
My Fabulous World

November 28, 2006 7:34 am
uvablue

uvablue

Tinkerer

23 posts

Good point rampancy, I forget that people actually had monochrome back in the day.  So, that probably clears that up, but I do think there's something in Alarm Clock Pro.

trademark:  I've gone back to look at the two icons next ACP and there doesn't seem to be much to them.  But, I'm with you on the fact that this seems a little too easy

EDIT - Haha! My mistake on the textedit thing.  I clicked the "how to make your own clock instructions" file in the Clock plugins folder and then clicked "help" per the instructions in the file before clicking over to ACP.  Conspiracy theory crushed!

November 28, 2006 7:36 am
rampancy

rampancy

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3,875 posts

uvablue wrote:

Good point rampancy, I forget that people actually had monochrome back in the day.  So, that probably clears that up, but I do think there's something in Alarm Clock Pro.

trademark:  I've gone back to look at the two icons next ACP and there doesn't seem to be much to them.  But, I'm with you on the fact that this seems a little too easy

Given the Hubert stuff in 1Passwd (which I now doubt as being a genine MH clue) and the AHL clue for the last mini-heist, I totally agree that there's most likely something in ACP for us to find.

What it is/where it is though, I have no idea...

EDIT: Thanks so much for the kind words and kudos from everyone!...this is the first heist I've solved without resorting to spoilers or help from other Heisters, so yeah, I feel especially proud of figuring it all out on my own!

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:40 am
flec65

flec65

Big Game Hunter

from Montréal QC
504 posts

rampancy wrote:

I've also looked through ACP via the usual "Show Package Contents" etc. business...haven't seen anything out of the ordinary yet...

Me neither. Nothing suspect to my tired eyes...
Maybe we should search for invisibles?...

November 28, 2006 7:43 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

just curious, how do you add text to the title after the fact?

November 28, 2006 7:44 am
johnred

johnred

Directorate

1,869 posts

For those of you who enjoyed this mini-heist, be sure to give out some big thanks to Schlaeps as he had a big part in creating this one.

He worked really hard and did a fantastic job on it (all voluntarily)!

John Casasanta
MacHeist Director
tap tap tap chief

November 28, 2006 7:47 am
scottm

scottm

Administrator

from Minnesota
114 posts

Photo678 wrote:

just curious, how do you add text to the title after the fact?

You need to have started the thread, if you did you just edit the top post and it changes the thread title.

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November 28, 2006 7:47 am
atticusrex

atticusrex

Sky Pirate

from dfw
1,025 posts

Thanks TechPepsi

Been Drinking the Mac KoolAid since 1984
See You in the Land Of The Useless
Neon Charity Films

November 28, 2006 7:47 am
iLori

iLori

Automaton Tech

from Cascades
251 posts

Outstanding job everybody!  Tons of fun!

Goodnight!

Parenthood is like being pecked to death by a duck

November 28, 2006 7:51 am
Photo678

Photo678

Automaton Tech

from quaint little town in PA
332 posts

scottm wrote:
Photo678 wrote:

just curious, how do you add text to the title after the fact?

You need to have started the thread, if you did you just edit the top post and it changes the thread title.

ahhh, thanks

November 28, 2006 7:54 am
Wasgo

Wasgo

Sky Pirate

from Vancouver, Canada
1,278 posts

That was fun. Glad after days of speculation, the new mini-heist was something everyone can do.

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November 28, 2006 7:55 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

from Denial.
3,875 posts

johnred wrote:

For those of you who enjoyed this mini-heist, be sure to give out some big thanks to Schlaeps as he had a big part in creating this one.

He worked really hard and did a fantastic job on it (all voluntarily)!

Yeah, big thanks to him for the clever little puzzle. Sure beats having to work on my thesis project research proposal!

Er, I hope my grad supervisor isn't on MacHeist...

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 7:56 am
flec65

flec65

Big Game Hunter

from Montréal QC
504 posts

Kudos to Jonathan and the MacHeist team!
And goodnight...

November 28, 2006 7:57 am
atticusrex

atticusrex

Sky Pirate

from dfw
1,025 posts

Schlaeps:  Thank You.  I keep thanking the Phill Crew Like John & scott and of course Phill and all the others... but that you had a hand in tonights 2.5 mini-heist is great.

Now that I have puckered up and kissed ****

I have only 1 question: Is there only one app or do I go back to the drawing board and figure out what I missed and didn't suss out?

I tried some other combos that seemed right... but to no avail.

Thanks Again

Been Drinking the Mac KoolAid since 1984
See You in the Land Of The Useless
Neon Charity Films

November 28, 2006 7:59 am
ThomasAcosta

ThomasAcosta

Tinkerer

from Germany
25 posts

thanks, that's a really nice heist...

let's go

November 28, 2006 7:59 am
rampancy

rampancy

Moderator

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I noticed in the Ryan Bell memo how they were talking about how cool and great the Wii was and were also waxing nostalgic about the NES: "We at MacHeist know how super sweet the Wii is, (things sure have come a long way since the NES)"...

I'm sure that was also a clue hinting at the right string of words to zero in on to solve the puzzle.

Marathon Forever.
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November 28, 2006 8:11 am
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