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Garafraxa

Garafraxa

Tinkerer

18 posts

Garafraxa wrote:

I know I am one more among hundreds, but...
THE REGISTRATION PROCESS IS INFURIATING.

Well, with that out of the way...

The program did the trick for me. I had 4000+ tracks without artwork, and I set it to work on all of them, with instructions to automatically add the artwork. There were A LOT of indie and mash-up tracks in there, that have no official artwork. The program did a very nice job on 95% of them. Not all the artwork is perfectly accurate, but the artist is always correct, and that's good enough for me. This program saved me about 20 hours of Googling and tedium. Despite it's glaring flaws, I am thankful for the program and the work it saved me.

March 6, 2010 10:59 pm
dkoerner

dkoerner

Sky Pirate

from Good ol' Germany
1,165 posts

jroddz wrote:

it came up with hundreds of albums which it said didn't have covers (but they did)

had the same issue trying it out yesterday. really strange. what bugged me more though, was that I suddenly had some tracks duped in my library, not sure if this was coverscout or something else, but that was really scary

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March 7, 2010 9:51 am

johnturner

Urchin

1 posts

REALLY UNHAPPY with having to create some account at "Equinux" to activate Cover Scout.

MEGA UNHAPPY.

MacHeist is cool, but stuff like this should be blatantly called out in the app info in each bundle so people can decide if it is worth it or not.  For me, it borders on not being worth it. 

Hopefully I won't find other situations like this in the other apps...if so, I won't be buying another MacHeist bundle.

March 7, 2010 3:44 pm
maxwell

maxwell

Gearhead

from outthere,way outside o Yonkers
91 posts

I could only get through 6 pages of this thread...I saw Equinuxs first response to these issues and it was woefully lacking. Having said that I see why people saw piracy hurts business and the legitimate user.If this hyperbolic and yeas "draconian" method of data mining (and it clearly is just that) DRM protection is this company's response to piracy then the 100's to thousands of turned-off buys will hurt their business so in a way piracy hurt them. But HOW you respond to a problem is infinately more important than the problem itself. This company picked a poor way to respond. And from what  am reading here and from my many experiences buying software online – they DO NOT in this case need to have our physical address. That's invasive. The push marketing (as some have called it) of installing song genie is INVASIVE. Demanding that I forever be tied to your company vis a vis an account to use a onetime software purchase is invasive

Let's be real, it's like giving a one night stand your work number, home number and cellphone number and keeping a standing sate for lunch once a week. Way beyond the parameters of the relationship.

Seeing responsive action like the ones Equinux has taken does not make me root for them. In a job I previously held Tune-Up was the software of record for cleaning up missing art in itunes. I (based on early experiences with the product) always personally recommended Cover Scout. No more.

Equinux, let this be a lesson to you – you threw away a chance to sway THOUSANDS of potential buyers of SG (at full price!) because of your horrible horrible process.  Blame 50% of it on the servers if you must but accept responsibility for your over-zealous attempts to thwart piracy and your invasive practices. You have gained something for being in this MH nano bundle though, an impressive loud and clear indictment of your practices which should serve as a standard by which to measure your future efforts. I wish you the best in regaining the confidence of these thousands of  disgruntled customers.

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March 7, 2010 3:58 pm
iDarbert

iDarbert

Big Game Hunter

from Lost Town
700 posts

maxwell wrote:

Equinux, let this be a lesson to you – you threw away a chance to sway THOUSANDS of potential buyers of SG (at full price!) because of your horrible horrible process.  Blame 50% of it on the servers if you must but accept responsibility for your over-zealous attempts to thwart piracy and your invasive practices. You have gained something for being in this MH nano bundle though, an impressive loud and clear indictment of your practices which should serve as a standard by which to measure your future efforts. I wish you the best in regaining the confidence of these thousands of  disgruntled customers.

I don't think they lost a lot of customers, it takes two minutes fiddling with the SongGenie demo to realize it's a waste of time.

March 7, 2010 4:19 pm

SantaIsComing666

Tinkerer

11 posts

If I want to go on using Cover Scout and all the covers are written into the files, may I delete the cover folders in Library -> Application Support -> Cover Scout?

March 7, 2010 11:21 pm

Flisker

Urchin

1 posts

GeorgeOcean wrote:

Does anyone know if the license for CoverScout also covers SongGenie?

I would love to know this as well smile

March 8, 2010 1:49 am
iDarbert

iDarbert

Big Game Hunter

from Lost Town
700 posts

Flisker wrote:
GeorgeOcean wrote:

Does anyone know if the license for CoverScout also covers SongGenie?

I would love to know this as well smile

No, it doesn't

March 8, 2010 9:57 am

stevemaser

Urchin

2 posts

My biggest problem with CoverScout is not the fact that it hogs CPU...


it's that every time I "Rebuild Library" with it (I have almost 38K songs), the list of albums does not show me artwork for albums I know already *have* artwork.

And it'll be a different list each time I "Rebuild Library" -- either by using the menu command or by trashing the /Library/Application Support/CoverScout 3 folder (which their tech support recommended.)


Oh, and for some reason CoverScout believes I have 11 more songs than iTunes does.


I don't know if this means my iTunes library has a problem or not...

March 8, 2010 6:06 pm

mr650

Urchin

2 posts

I haven't had a problem with the server holding all my registrations, including iSale. I did end up purchasing SongGenie, because CoverScout is really crippled without the companion app. I never tried applying the CoverScout license to SongGenie, but it did not show up in my equinux account until purchased, so I think it will be a separate purchase. The gold in this heist is more copies of ripit.

SongGenie is actually a good app. I wish it was a promo. I'd give it a shot now that you have CoverScout.

March 8, 2010 6:38 pm

noahrobd

Urchin

4 posts

I request having SongGenie included in the bundle along with CoverScout

March 8, 2010 7:00 pm
johnred

johnred

Directorate

1,869 posts

noahrobd wrote:

I request having SongGenie included in the bundle along with CoverScout

If you spam one more thread with this, I'm going to ban you. Buy the app if you want it so badly.

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March 8, 2010 8:41 pm

thebanite

Tinkerer

13 posts

Awkward as it was to register, it works like a charm. It is much better than other apps which do the same thing that I have tried.

March 8, 2010 11:54 pm
derickfay

derickfay

Tinkerer

16 posts

stevemaser wrote:

My biggest problem with CoverScout is not the fact that it hogs CPU...


it's that every time I "Rebuild Library" with it (I have almost 38K songs), the list of albums does not show me artwork for albums I know already *have* artwork.

And it'll be a different list each time I "Rebuild Library" -- either by using the menu command or by trashing the /Library/Application Support/CoverScout 3 folder (which their tech support recommended.)


Oh, and for some reason CoverScout believes I have 11 more songs than iTunes does.


I don't know if this means my iTunes library has a problem or not...

if your iTunes library is on an external drive, and/or if you don't let iTunes manage your files, CS won't find iTunes artwork

March 9, 2010 12:34 am

stevemaser

Urchin

2 posts

derickfay wrote:

if your iTunes library is on an external drive, and/or if you don't let iTunes manage your files, CS won't find iTunes artwork

Nope, that's not my problem.


I *think* it's more a question of the program really isn't fast enough -- or programmed well enough.

If I let the program *sit* for a while -- like an hour -- after the library has said it's rebuilt -- then it seems to show most (but not all) of the artwork.


The other problem -- it's search doesn't seem to find anything with a "&" in the title.    Like "Flo & Eddie"  or "Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young", etc...

March 9, 2010 2:25 pm

jglendenning

Urchin

1 posts

Ugh.  I should have paid attention that CoverScout was an Equinux product.  I never used my iSale license because of their installation and activation procedures.

Installing additional software like SongGenie is unacceptable.  Equinux products will never again be a consideration on whether I buy a bundle.

I only hope that AppZapper got it all.

March 10, 2010 1:18 am
yibbledibble

yibbledibble

Urchin

3 posts

I agree with the complaints in this thread. The registration was *far* too complicated to figure out, which means the application is of little use.

March 10, 2010 5:03 am
IKode

IKode

Urchin

from Atlanta
2 posts

Im disappointed to see how much trouble this app has been for many people.  I've been using it so far on a fresh Snow Leopard install with no issues. 

I have to agree that they should of had a notice about SongGenie being installed as well.  All in all it appears that its working for me.  As long as I don't see any usability issues with my library I will continue to use it.  I may even purchase SongGenie as it appears its cleaning up alot of my old songs.

I would recommend that you backup your iTunes library before trying this out.  Since I just did a fresh OS 10.6 install I already have the backups I need just in case.

I have not had any issues so far.  Ill keep my eye out.

March 10, 2010 12:59 pm
seishoku

seishoku

Urchin

2 posts

I didn't have any issues registering it or using it, though I do agree that they should have mentioned that they would be installing SongGenie, as well. SongGenie seems to be useful enough of a program, at least, though a lot of my music is foreign or less mainstream so it can't clean up a lot of it and I don't think that program is worth the price.

All in all, CoverScout is kind of clunky but I didn't have nearly as much trouble as everyone else seems to have had.

March 10, 2010 3:23 pm

mannieschumpert

Urchin

1 posts

Lame.

I haven't read this whole thread, but apart from the oft mentioned ridiculous registration requirements, the search browser crashes constantly.

March 10, 2010 7:44 pm
Snorkledorf

Snorkledorf

Tinkerer

from Japan
21 posts

I have 18k items in my iTunes library on an external drive, and after selecting File -> Move iTunes Covers to Files, CoverScout happily displayed all of my artwork. (I don't have any custom tags so it doesn't really matter if the resulting tags are v1 or whatever). Since then I've been using it to hunt down my missing artwork and it's done a perfectly fine job for me so far. I'm doing it manually over a number of sessions, and at the moment I'm happy with it. Since I already had MacJournal and RapidWeaver, CS was a heavy reason for buying the bundle, and it's certainly been worth the price.

That said about the app, their registration policy is admittedly ridiculous. I gave them a clearly fake address when they inappropriately asked for it, and the necessity of making a useless login to their site so you can attach your code to your login, so the app can access your login to activate itself...that's like, "What?" We use Macs; elegance please! I've also told Little Snitch to stop CS from contacting the mothership at launch, but obviously I have to allow it net access in general, so I don't really know which LS rule is taking priority. The other issues brought up in this thread are also legitimate complaints: installing SongGenie without an opt-in and such.

And it won't be long before I delete the rather excessive 5.45 GB "iTunes Covers" folder in CoverScout's Application Support folder, but that can wait until I've finished the first pass through my library.

It seems to be a pretty good app, hobbled by a protection/registration scheme that makes the company look pretty bad. But it was cheap, so I'm happy.

March 11, 2010 4:49 am
dontgone

dontgone

Gearhead

from South Africa
83 posts

This app is in my Trash.  I have never had such a difficult time getting a bloody app activated.  By itself, CoverScout is useless to me since I don't bother about album covers in iTunes but I thought since I'd got it in the bundle I'd give it a go.  Not anymore.  It goes.  Just like iSale went.

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March 11, 2010 10:35 am
VelvetRose

VelvetRose

Automaton Tech

from Beyond Wonderland
215 posts

derickfay wrote:

if your iTunes library is on an external drive, and/or if you don't let iTunes manage your files, CS won't find iTunes artwork

Wow, that's a rather serious deficiency I've missed. I know many people that do have their library (or a large part of it) elsewhere and who won't let iTunes manage it - including me. Kavasoft's Curator never protested when I tried it so it's possible to have support for it afaik.

Guess that makes CS pretty useless to me then... Huge thank you for letting me know in advance!

March 11, 2010 5:45 pm

dlh27

Urchin

1 posts

Aside from the registration bull, this program keeps crashing and is very slow. I'm testing it on a small section of my library that I have separately on my computer, about 200 songs and I can't get through the list with out a problem.
This and monkey island is why I bought my first macheist bundle. Never again. I thought these apps would be tested.

March 12, 2010 11:21 am

Gymnae

Urchin

2 posts

maxwell wrote:

Equinux, let this be a lesson to you – you threw away a chance to sway THOUSANDS of potential buyers of SG (at full price!) because of your horrible horrible process.  Blame 50% of it on the servers if you must but accept responsibility for your over-zealous attempts to thwart piracy and your invasive practices. You have gained something for being in this MH nano bundle though, an impressive loud and clear indictment of your practices which should serve as a standard by which to measure your future efforts. I wish you the best in regaining the confidence of these thousands of  disgruntled customers.

Very well put, Sir. I agree 100%

March 12, 2010 11:04 pm

m509272

Urchin

4 posts

I'm glad I didn't buy in because of this software.  It's horrible.  Here's a scathing review which pretty much sums it up.  Since this forum isn't letting me post a link it's at www macnn com / reviews / coverscout-3.html

March 13, 2010 5:23 pm

chgause2001

Urchin

1 posts

It is crap that my home address is needed to register a piece of software that I purchased from a third party

March 13, 2010 8:40 pm
Melody of Light

Melody of Light

Urchin

3 posts

This program was a large part of the reason why I bought the NanoBundle 2. I had no issues activating the software and, while I found the requests for personal information to be a bit much, have no qualms with it otherwise.

The program works well. It isn't perfect, but it makes it very easy to find and add cover artwork to your library.

Its integration with SongGenie is nice, as well. Unfortunately, the license for CoverScout doesn't cover SongGenie - basically, a demo of SongGenie is installed on your system when you install CoverScout. For me, SongGenie would probably be the more valuable of the two.

Unfortunately, I feel that the full price of CoverScout ($40) should have included SongGenie, and thus I won't buy SongGenie separately. Hope to see it included in another MacHeis bundle.

March 14, 2010 12:34 am
jdhoss

jdhoss

Big Game Hunter

from Minnesota
963 posts

I think I'm going to end up going back to TuneUp or Pollux both apps are very good and do a heck of a lot more.

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March 15, 2010 1:44 am
moviegod

moviegod

Automaton Tech

from Germany
187 posts

Did anyone else just get a newsletter from Equinux without signing up for one?

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March 22, 2010 9:18 pm

SantaIsComing666

Tinkerer

11 posts

Never got a newsletter. All in all the application served its purpose pretty well, my library looks pretty now, without a lot manual input.

March 22, 2010 9:53 pm
guitardaddy76

guitardaddy76

Automaton Tech

from Sweden
219 posts

Give us Song Genie and we'll call it even.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is tying it's shoes."  -  Mark Twain

March 23, 2010 12:25 pm
deej

deej

Automaton Tech

450 posts

I got that newsletter today.

I must admit, I can't remember whether I said they could email me or not, but I must admit as soon as I saw the subject I laughed, deleted the email and went back to sleep.

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March 23, 2010 1:15 pm

cnf

Urchin

from Belgium
7 posts

Apart from all the licensing issues, this app is rather worthless. It is very very slow in scanning my iTunes library, doesn't even see updates to my library most of the time, and generally makes it harder and longer to put covers on my music.

I'm disappointed generally MH software doesn't suck, even if it doesn't do something one needs. This, I fear, just sucks hmm

March 27, 2010 2:02 pm
matthewlowery

matthewlowery

Automaton Tech

from England
383 posts

Melody of Light wrote:

This program was a large part of the reason why I bought the NanoBundle 2. I had no issues activating the software and, while I found the requests for personal information to be a bit much, have no qualms with it otherwise.

The program works well. It isn't perfect, but it makes it very easy to find and add cover artwork to your library.

Its integration with SongGenie is nice, as well. Unfortunately, the license for CoverScout doesn't cover SongGenie - basically, a demo of SongGenie is installed on your system when you install CoverScout. For me, SongGenie would probably be the more valuable of the two.

Unfortunately, I feel that the full price of CoverScout ($40) should have included SongGenie, and thus I won't buy SongGenie separately. Hope to see it included in another MacHeis bundle.

This pretty sums up my opinion of this. I don't mind that it installed SongGenie without asking me, as it works really well alongside it. Would have been nice if the license had covered SongGenie too though..

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March 27, 2010 5:03 pm
iDarbert

iDarbert

Big Game Hunter

from Lost Town
700 posts

moviegod wrote:

Did anyone else just get a newsletter from Equinux without signing up for one?

Have you checked your receipt page? There's a list of checkboxes on the side to decide whenever you want to receive emails from the developers.

March 27, 2010 6:53 pm
moviegod

moviegod

Automaton Tech

from Germany
187 posts

iDarbert wrote:

Have you checked your receipt page? There's a list of checkboxes on the side to decide whenever you want to receive emails from the developers.

I did, and the CoverScout checkbox is unchecked.

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March 28, 2010 8:29 am
moviegod

moviegod

Automaton Tech

from Germany
187 posts

Just got another one.
At the bottom it says "This newsletter has been sent to you because you downloaded or purchased equinux Software in the past."

Downloaded yes. Signed up for a newsletter no.

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March 30, 2010 6:52 am
smokeytams

smokeytams

Gearhead

65 posts

moviegod wrote:

Just got another one.
At the bottom it says "This newsletter has been sent to you because you downloaded or purchased equinux Software in the past."

Downloaded yes. Signed up for a newsletter no.

It's bad enough when software companies "assume" you want newsletters and you have to tick a checkbox "Not" to receive them.

But to receive newsletters just because you downloaded or purchased software is outrageous.

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March 30, 2010 4:04 pm
rhinolith

rhinolith

Urchin

from Singapore
5 posts

I got CoverScout to work and it is OK. It does what it is supposed to do. I wants to lead you into their other product, SongGenie or SongScout or whatever.

March 31, 2010 2:50 pm
blue_fireball_eater

blue_fireball_eater

Moderator

from Nashville
2,623 posts

Still no comments about v3?

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April 15, 2010 6:36 pm
mgrego2

mgrego2

Automaton Tech

281 posts

Hello all.

I have put up a comparison of CoverScout, Pollux, and TuneUp. There are no affiliate tags or anything, so the only benefit I get is any constructive/destructive comments that might flow my way. There is an initial comparison and a follow-up on Pollux and TuneUp. My hope is that others will be able to decide on a product without spending as much time on it as I did.

http://mgrego2.wordpress.com/

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April 19, 2010 7:28 pm
f16332

f16332

Sky Pirate

1,135 posts

For those of you who hate CoverScout, but want a utility like it, check out Tagalicious. It works sooooo much better and it can also fill in song info... it is essentially SongGenie and CoverScout with more functionality and it cheaper too. I had a good experience with the trial.....

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with The Little App Factory.

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May 22, 2010 6:12 pm

brusestudery

Urchin

5 posts

yeah, could not get registered..

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