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Ollie N

Ollie N

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Warbrain wrote:

Honestly, the only way to clean up your inbox is for you to do it yourself. I used to get numerous spam messages throughout the day. You know what I did? I clicked unsubscribe in them. And guess what?! IT WORKED. My inbox is clean again.

ANother way is to mark them as spam then anything from that address should go to your junk inbox

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December 30, 2010 4:06 pm
darkid

darkid

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Plenty of spam dosen't have "unsubscribe" links... so just tick your spam filter up a notch and check your spam folder more often.

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December 30, 2010 7:45 pm
Miah

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darkid wrote:

Plenty of spam dosen't have "unsubscribe" links...

And those that do love when you click those links. You just confirmed that you do in fact open spam mail at that address and they can easily resell your info with that notation. Your inbox just becomes a juicier target for other spam.

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December 30, 2010 8:09 pm
Warbrain

Warbrain

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Miah wrote:
darkid wrote:

Plenty of spam dosen't have "unsubscribe" links...

And those that do love when you click those links. You just confirmed that you do in fact open spam mail at that address and they can easily resell your info with that notation. Your inbox just becomes a juicier target for other spam.

Most of the ones I received came from MailChimp and other services. They're good about not doing it again or selling me off.

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December 30, 2010 8:15 pm
darkid

darkid

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but others do... that's what miah meant about re-selling.

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December 31, 2010 3:00 am

Ohce

Urchin

7 posts

JPDyson wrote:

The truth is, you're likely receiving

a) Opt-in messages from devs, and
b) Unsolicited (SPAM) messages from scumbags

The former, you opted for. The latter is a result of scumbags (SCUM-FREAKING-BAGS) stealing your PII from a third party that MH used for mass emails.

That's the state of affairs as best I can tell. You can fix a) by going to your order lookup page (linked above) and clearing some checkboxes. The latter, well, hopefully will die off eventually (but I wouldn't hold your breath). Report/Filter/Rules/etc.

That's it in a nutshell. I'll just change my email prefs and recreate the MacHeist address. It's quite rare for me to get spam so it sort of stands out. I saw the thread and thought I'd chime in.

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December 31, 2010 3:18 am
cypher

cypher

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from UK
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darkid wrote:

Plenty of spam dosen't have "unsubscribe" links... so just tick your spam filter up a notch and check your spam folder more often.

Even just receiving the spam whether it be to a spam folder or your inbox only helps to confirm your address is valid and encourages the spammers to keep trying.  If the mail doesn't bounce they know it got through.

The only real way to deal with spam is to delete the address once it's been compromised and to block non existence address from any sort of Catch All account.  All of which isn't easy if your don't have your own domain.   This is why the companies you deal with, and provide your address to, should be more careful with the data and shouldn't be allowing it to be compromised in the first place.

I agree with Miah about the unsubscribe links, it's only a nice confirmation to the spammer that not only did you accept the mail you also read it.  I rarely click unsubscribe links unless it's a very reputable company that I know and had dealt with previously.

January 1, 2011 1:07 pm

Ohce

Urchin

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cypher wrote:
darkid wrote:

Plenty of spam dosen't have "unsubscribe" links... so just tick your spam filter up a notch and check your spam folder more often.

Even just receiving the spam whether it be to a spam folder or your inbox only helps to confirm your address is valid and encourages the spammers to keep trying.  If the mail doesn't bounce they know it got through.

The only real way to deal with spam is to delete the address once it's been compromised and to block non existence address from any sort of Catch All account.  All of which isn't easy if your don't have your own domain.   This is why the companies you deal with, and provide your address to, should be more careful with the data and shouldn't be allowing it to be compromised in the first place.

I agree with Miah about the unsubscribe links, it's only a nice confirmation to the spammer that not only did you accept the mail you also read it.  I rarely click unsubscribe links unless it's a very reputable company that I know and had dealt with previously.

That's why I've used Sneakemail for years. I create a new email address for each purpose and if it gets spammed, I simply delete it (after reporting it) and never have to deal with it again. I don't use any sort of spam filter and I generally get less than ten spam emails a year.

January 1, 2011 10:24 pm
zona

zona

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I just got a truly spammerific email from a canadian pharmacy selling male "enhancement" products delivered to my macheist specific email address. It is an address I creates for the occasion and have only ever used for macheist. I tried to post the full headers, but "New Members can not post links, images or email addresses until they become more active."

I'd love to help you track the evildoers down, but not sure how you'll contact me. That email is going to /dev/null now.

May 10, 2011 2:13 am
Warbrain

Warbrain

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I think we need to have a serious discussion on what makes your inbox so holy...

The answer is nothing.

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May 10, 2011 2:26 am
zona

zona

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Warbrain wrote:

I think we need to have a serious discussion on what makes your inbox so holy...

The answer is nothing.

Really?
I came here to report a problem and hopefully help solve it. I was under the impression that the folks here at macheist would have a vested interest in at least trying to keep my email address out of the hands of spammers. I guess my decision to send incoming mail to /dev/null was a good one.

Too bad too. I've enjoyed macheists in the past. I'm sure my friends, acquaintances and twitter followers will be interested to know that their inboxes are not important to the macheist people either.

May 10, 2011 3:15 am
Warbrain

Warbrain

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zona wrote:
Warbrain wrote:

I think we need to have a serious discussion on what makes your inbox so holy...

The answer is nothing.

Really?
I came here to report a problem and hopefully help solve it. I was under the impression that the folks here at macheist would have a vested interest in at least trying to keep my email address out of the hands of spammers. I guess my decision to send incoming mail to /dev/null was a good one.

Too bad too. I've enjoyed macheists in the past. I'm sure my friends, acquaintances and twitter followers will be interested to know that their inboxes are not important to the macheist people either.

It's my personal opinion. I'm sure someone may reach out but it won't be me. And I never directed my comment towards you but you seem to think that it was.

And hey, I'm just a moderator, not a person running the actual operation.

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May 10, 2011 3:24 am
zona

zona

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Warbrain wrote:

And hey, I'm just a moderator, not a person running the actual operation.

Even if your comment was not directed at me, it was certainly not constructive. Some might even consider it troll-ish. Generally speaking, moderators are given perks in exchange for keeping the trolls in line. You probably also agreed at some point to behave yourself lest your comments reflect badly upon macheist.

I do hope I'm not wasting my time checking back in here.

May 10, 2011 4:03 am
blue_fireball_eater

blue_fireball_eater

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zona wrote:

You probably also agreed at some point to behave yourself

Now that I would love to see.

It is common knowledge for regulars on the forum that MacHeist customer emails before a certain date were compromised on the host servers. The most useful information you could provide is the date that you gave your email to MacHeist. If before that date, then it makes sense. If more recent, that is a whole different problem than what we know about.

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May 10, 2011 4:43 am
Miah

Miah

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Lemme bottom line this.

Sometimes some of us forget that a lot of people coming in will see the badge under my name as meaning a public face. Really it's not. We're mostly just members of the community that delete spam posts and we tend to forget that new people won't see it that way. So, sorry for that.

On that note, we're also not too fond of new spam posts, so let me boil this down into bite-sized morsels.

1) We didn't leak your info, the people we were paying to manage mailing lists before the leak did
2) They shouldn't have even had your info as the leak happened after we stopped doing business with them
3) We can't reverse this.

Sorry, but it's not that we're unwilling to help so much as there's nothing we can do. You can feel free to harp on the people that leaked the information they should not have been retaining about it though.

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May 10, 2011 8:31 am
zona

zona

Urchin

7 posts

Thank you blue and miah,
It was not my intention to come in here and stir things up. I'm not a forum regular, and I did not know email addresses had been compromised. I have gotten a fair number of messages recently from other organizations warning me when something has happened to them. I guess I thought macheist would warn similarly if it were known, or at least that there would be something about it here.

When I came to the forums to report the issue, there was a locked thread toward the top of the page about spam that pointed to this one. In the first 3 pages of this thread, directorate level folks were asking for information about the spammers. I don't think it was an unreasonable assumption on my part they still wanted info on page 5. In the absence of a notification, maybe a sticky saying what Miah summed up so succinctly in #115 would cut down on the complaints from folks like me.

Just my two cents. The compromised address is dead now. Thanks for your time.

May 10, 2011 12:07 pm
JPDyson

JPDyson

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Due to the lack of new information possible, and the recent clear summary, I vote "close". Edit the top post w/this info, lock the thread, and we move on.

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May 10, 2011 2:18 pm
andys53

andys53

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And you didn't do it yet because? You're not usually so reticent.   tongue

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May 12, 2011 4:38 pm
JPDyson

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andys53 wrote:

And you didn't do it yet because? You're not usually so reticent.   tongue

Fixed.

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May 12, 2011 4:47 pm
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