philoxoxy, your opinion strikes me as that of the minority - most people i know were aware
But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have sent out an email.
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I didn't know, I didn't get an email... despite having 3 licences.
I've stopped visiting here because macHeist seems dead and finished.
So I'd no reason to stumble on to the info about 1Password, mines updating with minor fixes as normal.
I'm only here now after a long time out of curiosity, wondering if anything was going on.... which as usual isn't lol.
I used to love the Christmas giving tree etc.
Ah the good old days....
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First of all, 1Password 3.8~ rocks, seriously. I have always recommended it to any and everyone with a Mac, sale prices or not.
AgileBits has been great in providing quick turnarounds to issues and browser compatibility.
That being said, it seems like through the last full version number features have tended to go away over time. The iPhone app used to switch to the browser and plug in the password for you - now you have to do it manually. The bookmarklet is good but it has to be updated manually (who of you remembers to do that regularly?). The plugin has broken working features quite a few times over the 3.x cycle (HTTP Auth still doesn't work).
Now because they inexplicably want to go App store only, they are "forced" to remove STILL MORE features and give us no other option. Their support/updates/turnaround time will drop off dramatically.
I'm not impressed at all, and not likely to upgrade. I don't see a better product in the future, with the path they're taking.
My opinion, FWIW.
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Just keep the non MAS version until 4.0 comes out. Then it might be worth upgrading, and it might not. Also, they often give away licenses at Thanksgiving.
not in MAS for sure.
The plugin has broken working features quite a few times over the 3.x cycle (HTTP Auth still doesn't work).
The "plugin" is actually an "Extension" and Apple's API does not support HTTP Auth.
That said, a lot of your other points are valid. My only retort is that they haven't failed to impress me over the long run. Literally, the single feature I'm missing is HTTP Auth.
JMarkevich wrote:The plugin has broken working features quite a few times over the 3.x cycle (HTTP Auth still doesn't work).
The "plugin" is actually an "Extension" and Apple's API does not support HTTP Auth.
That said, a lot of your other points are valid. My only retort is that they haven't failed to impress me over the long run. Literally, the single feature I'm missing is HTTP Auth.
Ok, to further clarify, the "extension" is an "Add-In" on Firefox. And HTTP Auth doesn't work there either. Nor on Chrome.
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For me HTTP Auth is a dealbreaker. I regularly access cPanel sites and PHPmyAdmin secured by HTTP Auth and couldn't live without the autofill feature of the recent 1P versions.
Not upgrading as long as I can and will search for a replacement thereafter.
1P is on sale at MAS for $24.99 again. I had hoped that Agile would match its earlier upgrade price of just under twenty bucks. I think that the companion iOS apps are also on sale.
And this time, 1P did send an email (unlike before the move to MAS when they dropped the bombshell of a move only on their forums and on twitter). Even I had hoped they'd drop it back to $19.99 temporarily to pacify the hundreds (if not thousands) of ruffled feathers caused by the previous communication disaster. But life goes on.
Update: It did seem tempting to grab it and get version 4.0, but considering the stability issues I've been having on Firefox for a long time now, I'm willing to wait until a stable 4.0 release comes along. There'd surely be a "sale" when (or soon after) 4.0 is released.
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ARGH! They did it again. On the latest change log for 3.8.1:
- Changed: Removed deprecated "New Logins Bookmarklet" feature. Users of this feature are encouraged to use the iOS edition of 1Password or 1PasswordAnywhere.
Yeah so we can switch back and forth and copy and paste while juggling apps. How convenient! How about you just STOP REMOVING FEATURES? At this rate the browser extensions aren't going to be in existence for long.
Agile as a company has gone from awesome to annoying with only a few severely stupid actions. I'm not sure I'll even recommend 1Password anymore. Time to investigate alternatives, I think.
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Agile as a company has gone from awesome to annoying with only a few severely stupid actions. I'm not sure I'll even recommend 1Password anymore. Time to investigate alternatives, I think.
Annoying, indeed, but they haven't caused me any serious problems yet. I think many of my questions will be answered when v4 is revealed. This all seems to have started with them changing their name to AgileBits.
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Meh. Never used it, and never launch the full app anymore because I can get all I need from the in-app extension menu.
You do know this is talking about the iOS browser right? You can click the bookmarklet and it pops up an overlay that lets you do much like the extension menu does on desktop.
They just want to sell the iOS version, I know, but I still want this feature even if I have the iOS version.
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Today macZOT is selling mSecure Password Manager at 10$ (50% off), does this app do a similar job to 1password?
Similar but not quite the same. Lacks the Go and Fill of 1Password but has unlimited record types with unlimited fields which you can customize. Bit of a fiddle to get my 1Password data in; had to export to tab delimited file, change tabs to commas and then add fields that are defaults on every record. On the whole though I like it. There are Windows, iPhone and Android versions. Easy sync via Dropbox.
At this price it's worth it.
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IMO The only real & worthy alternative to 1P is LastPass. I started using it before I had a Mac and continue to use it in conjunction with 1P even today. I find its password generator and auto login superior but prefer the mobile apps for 1P so maintain both.
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I'm not following the whole thing, but what I take it is that AgileBits will only offer 1Password v 4.0 from Mac AppStore. From what I can see they still promote the non-MAS version. They're having a 40% off sale now on both their store and the MAS. I'm not seeing any notice about no v4 for non-MAS version though.
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I'm not following the whole thing, but what I take it is that AgileBits will only offer 1Password v 4.0 from Mac AppStore. From what I can see they still promote the non-MAS version. They're having a 40% off sale now on both their store and the MAS. I'm not seeing any notice about no v4 for non-MAS version though.
I know, it seems kinda rotten to offer their product from their own store when they're going to axe it soon, according to all reports.
Something happened to Agile over the last year, and I don't like it.
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I know, it seems kinda rotten to offer their product from their own store when they're going to axe it soon, according to all reports.
Something happened to Agile over the last year, and I don't like it.
They got lost in the intoxication of success and they can't be convinced that they've lost their way. ![]()
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Did they have a change of management? This all seemed to start when they changed their name to Agilebits.
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raizamn wrote:I'm not following the whole thing, but what I take it is that AgileBits will only offer 1Password v 4.0 from Mac AppStore. From what I can see they still promote the non-MAS version. They're having a 40% off sale now on both their store and the MAS. I'm not seeing any notice about no v4 for non-MAS version though.
I know, it seems kinda rotten to offer their product from their own store when they're going to axe it soon, according to all reports.
Something happened to Agile over the last year, and I don't like it.
Sorry , but my english is not so good
What do you mean by "they're going to axe it soon" ? Are they going to stop 1password ?
JMarkevich wrote:raizamn wrote:I'm not following the whole thing, but what I take it is that AgileBits will only offer 1Password v 4.0 from Mac AppStore. From what I can see they still promote the non-MAS version. They're having a 40% off sale now on both their store and the MAS. I'm not seeing any notice about no v4 for non-MAS version though.
I know, it seems kinda rotten to offer their product from their own store when they're going to axe it soon, according to all reports.
Something happened to Agile over the last year, and I don't like it.
Sorry , but my english is not so good
What do you mean by "they're going to axe it soon" ? Are they going to stop 1password ?
The one that's sold from their site (not the Mac App Store) is not going to be upgraded to v4.0. They make no indication on the site that there's any difference between MAS and their hosted version.
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The one that's sold from their site (not the Mac App Store) is not going to be upgraded to v4.0. They make no indication on the site that there's any difference between MAS and their hosted version.
Why do developers with good products go insane the moment they start working on getting their apps out in MAS? MAS is the common thread across developers who were supposedly nice but turned out to be otherwise (after they put their apps on MAS). I'm not suggesting that MAS is the cause of this mess, but it seems to be motivating the "dark side" for some well known developers.
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A viable 1PW replacement around the corner?
Came across Dashlane the other day.
Safari isn't supported yet (but will be soon) and it still has some quirks. I'll keep an eye on it though.
Alternatives are always good. I'll be checking it out shortly.
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