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Warbrain

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RAH RAH RAH!!!

GO TEAM!!

Truly memorable.

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November 28, 2007 10:08 pm
spyker3292

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Nice..

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November 28, 2007 10:09 pm
alloutmacstoday

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lol

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November 28, 2007 10:18 pm
shadownight

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Isn't this was MacHeist is all about, controversy? tongue Everyone had good intentions, so I guess all is good now.

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November 28, 2007 10:37 pm
definetheline

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November 28, 2007 10:51 pm

jetuserx

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someone on irc is giving me the same problem too, maybe its mh2 starting up, i also noticed the rss feed is down

November 28, 2007 10:53 pm
definetheline

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Yeah thats the same person. I was just screen sharing with him and it's really weird.

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November 28, 2007 10:58 pm
AriX

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OK, this is totally bizarre. I tried the site again and it works perfectly... I got home, it was down/messed, ~15 mins later it comes back up... I'm not pretending! I was, however, able to access MacHeist by going to anypossiblesubdomain.macheist.com (which you can still do now)

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November 28, 2007 11:04 pm

jetuserx

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the feed is still down at any rate, it was up the other day when i randomly checked

November 28, 2007 11:06 pm
nfreader

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I accept the apology and I look forward to MH2 starting soon. Viral stuff like this doesn't work out all the time, no worries. Everyone should just move on with their lives and forget about this.

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November 28, 2007 11:19 pm
Maulsel

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The RSS feed still works for me!

feed://macheist.com/rss.xml

November 28, 2007 11:22 pm

austintheheller

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scottm wrote:
bjames wrote:

Yeah, cool for the CMS systems and hosting companies that get the random black eye for months or years with the left over "site hacked using WordPress on this hosting company... down for 24 hours!"  Great PR for the CMS systems and hosting companies for sure!  This does not impact the sites that took part, it impacts companies that did not take part!  Super move there...

Malcor never said he used any CMS/hosting company vulnerabilities to hack the sites.

So? Fact is, word got out that the two sites were powered by WordPress, and whether that was your guys' intentions or not, it ended up hurting WordPress's credibility; and possibly scaring away potential customers for MediaTemple.

November 29, 2007 12:19 am
mdmunoz

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austintheheller wrote:
scottm wrote:
bjames wrote:

Yeah, cool for the CMS systems and hosting companies that get the random black eye for months or years with the left over "site hacked using WordPress on this hosting company... down for 24 hours!"  Great PR for the CMS systems and hosting companies for sure!  This does not impact the sites that took part, it impacts companies that did not take part!  Super move there...

Malcor never said he used any CMS/hosting company vulnerabilities to hack the sites.

So? Fact is, word got out that the two sites were powered by WordPress, and whether that was your guys' intentions or not, it ended up hurting WordPress's credibility; and possibly scaring away potential customers for MediaTemple.

Wordpress hurts its own credibility by presenting digg users with nicely-formatted database error pages every day of the week and accidentally releasing unauthorized changes with their updates. I don't think this will have much of an effect.

November 29, 2007 1:12 am

jetuserx

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Maulsel wrote:

The RSS feed still works for me!

feed://macheist.com/rss.xml

yes its working now, but it wasn't working for the duration the one user had a problem with the site

November 29, 2007 2:03 am
AriX

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You can refer to me by my name tongue

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November 29, 2007 2:29 am
Maulsel

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There is also the fact that there's technically two different RSS feeds: feed.xml, and rss.xml. I just remembered that now. I guess one of them went down, and the other didn't.

November 29, 2007 2:55 am

MacPhoenix

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This type of action is childish by definition. For an adult, this is a sign of emotional defect that needs therapy.

This type of action is only used to provoke and it is in the same manner that hardcore PC users employ who defined the original denotation of a Hacker. As Macintosh users, it is hard to live in the world as it stands. The reactions that are felt are the same as racial prejudice. If you don't think that has any merit, just go to ANY "power user" forum and barely mention that you are a Mac user and you will feel the brunt of idiocy, FUD, & plain prejudice that the former two feeds into the latter.

As a person who has felt this first hand, try going to ITT Tech as a Mac person, I am beyond offended by this type of "stunt". I am not laughing. I am contemplating legal action. But since I have no money to do anything; other that live check to check, I will not peruse anything. This is a slap in the face of any and all Mac users who have any amount of pride in using a superior computer system. And it came from a fellow Mac user? That is NEVER forgivable. If my best friend slapped me across the face, hard enough to leave a hand-print, and told me that it was only a joke, I would never talk to that person again.

Now, I have taken out AppleMatters.com and am thinking about deleting any other site that is listed as a sponsor on this site. I may never add these sites back into my bookmarks.

As a man who has grown up with the growth of Apple from System 6, I am ashamed to have people associate the term "fanboy" with people who have a healthy obsession. For those who do take it too far, they should be dealt with on an individual basis.

I can understand if there are people who will read this and think that I am one of the "fanboy"s that I am talking about. But I don't go around being smug, talking down to others who don't have Apple products. I am not that stupid. There are plenty of other stupid people out there. Hmmmm, Paul Thurrott anyone? Dvorak??

November 29, 2007 5:34 am
mdmunoz

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MacPhoenix wrote:

As Macintosh users, it is hard to live in the world as it stands. The reactions that are felt are the same as racial prejudice.

You say you aren't smug, but comparing anti-Mac sentiment racism? You have the worst case of "Internet: Serious Business" I've ever seen.  I've looked long and hard for the stereotypical slobbering Mac fanboy; congratulations, you're it.

Please kill yourself and rid the Mac community of your idiocy.

November 29, 2007 6:04 am

austintheheller

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mdmunoz wrote:
MacPhoenix wrote:

Please kill yourself and rid the Mac community of your idiocy.

Now that was out of line.

November 29, 2007 6:55 am
hoyaman

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Mdmunoz is typically out of line.  But so am I, I suppose.

What's rather more appalling is the hubris of this stunt.  Hackers have taken down "Mac" sites before, and they've taken down much larger game, and done real damage.

Are these sites that taunted hackers safer than most?  probably.  Are they invulnerable? Technically impossible.

Were these sites, as Mac-centric as they are, hacker targets before? I doubt it.  Have these sites done a good job of getting real hackers' attention? yep.

Oh, and are the apologies sincere? No, clearly not.  If the apology were sincere, the title on this thread and the tone of comments by those involved would be different - a sense of humility might even be apparent.

But no, only hubris.  I propose that Hubert be replaced by Icarus as mascot of MacHeist. 

And I request clarification for all os us who bought the first bundle:  no personal information of ours is still in the hands of any MacHeist personnel, or in any databases, correct?

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November 29, 2007 7:12 am
mdmunoz

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austintheheller wrote:

Now that was out of line.

Cry me a river. Even entertaining the idea of digg flamewars being equivalent to hundreds of years of oppression is disgusting. Some people should not use the internet, and if they need to be scared off of it, so be it.

hoyaman wrote:

Mdmunoz is typically out of line

Well good golly gosh.

hoyaman wrote:

Were these sites, as Mac-centric as they are, hacker targets before? I doubt it.  Have these sites done a good job of getting real hackers' attention? yep.

You're implying that hackers are now going to go on a Mac attack spree. Spare us the prophecies of doom unless you have, I dunno, proof of some kind.

November 29, 2007 8:32 am
Photo678

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/me waves at everyone

November 29, 2007 9:18 am
Warbrain

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Ok, this thread has now squared itself in the darker territories of flaming so let's just either A) Walk away and forget it or B) Lock the thread.

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November 29, 2007 12:38 pm
definetheline

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November 29, 2007 12:56 pm
definetheline

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Talk about people who can't take a joke....

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November 29, 2007 12:59 pm
alloutmacstoday

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i know!!!  it was funny!!!!  get your laugh on peoplz!!!!

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November 29, 2007 1:25 pm
Warbrain

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Hey, I was all the laughs!  Who started the vaporware cheer?

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November 29, 2007 4:38 pm
mdmunoz

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If anything, I think it's funnier now.

November 29, 2007 6:52 pm
Maulsel

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Personally, I'd rather they bring malcor back and just add a "Notice: This blog is purely for entertainment purposes. None of the aforementioned sites are in any actual danger, and are affiliates of ours." or something at the bottom, since malcor WAS kind of a cool character.

But, alas, some people had to ruin the fun, so they're gonna completely remove him. This, of course, is gonna delay MacHeist 2, which I don't think ANY of us wanted to happen (seriously, we've been waiting all of November already)! I don't think they need to completely remove him, just... do something else that can keep him.

At any rate, some of these people need to get some humility. So, you went and optimized your code. Good for you! You should've done that in the first place. It's not WASTED time at all. It's time used on a very important thing. What REALLY scares me is that now that this has happened, and it's been revealed that he's a fake, a real mac fanboy-hater is going to actually do this kind of stuff. And then, how well will we be off?

But, I digress. I'm just hoping that they don't have to start an entirely new trailhead. That'll just keep us waiting even longer... (Actually, knowing these guys and their secrecy, I wouldn't be surprised if it's already started.)

November 29, 2007 8:05 pm
spyker3292

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Yes, a big NOTICE would be nicer than waiting a week (or a month... or a year...).

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November 29, 2007 9:46 pm
hoyaman

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More than that, it's not entirely clear how denying the association with MacHeist was crucial to the character OR the heist.

If we didn't go after some rogue hacker type character in MH1, we did in iHeist or theAmazon.  Was it any less fun or humorous to solve the riddles and track the "hacker's" tracks?

naw.

It is funny when I forget to put emoticons on sentences and someone takes offense.  HEE-larious!!

Also, I am in no way a prophetic voice, unless the smallish probability I spoke of being larger than the nearly minimal probability that existed before comes to fruition.

THEN I'll accept your paypal money and read your future.

I promise.

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November 30, 2007 9:22 am
rampancy

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spyker3292 wrote:

Yes, a big NOTICE would be nicer than waiting a week (or a month... or a year...).

Remember what happened with Heist 1 and Heist 6? It's not like communication is a strong point with the Directorate... tongue

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November 30, 2007 2:36 pm
spyker3292

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rampancy wrote:
spyker3292 wrote:

Yes, a big NOTICE would be nicer than waiting a week (or a month... or a year...).

Remember what happened with Heist 1 and Heist 6? It's not like communication is a strong point with the Directorate... tongue

No, I joined a month or so late.

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November 30, 2007 9:21 pm
stsuida

stsuida

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I bet this "Hostage taker at Clinton's Office" stunt is all part of MH2.

November 30, 2007 9:35 pm
mdmunoz

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November 30, 2007 9:36 pm
rampancy

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Sweet. That's the most memorable thing Rixstep has done in a very long time.

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November 30, 2007 9:54 pm
johnred

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rampancy wrote:

Sweet. That's the most memorable thing Rixstep has done in a very long time.

All the Rixstep "hate" is clues for the lead-in to mission 1 now. Get to solving, peeps. tongue

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November 30, 2007 11:18 pm
nfreader

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johnred wrote:
rampancy wrote:

Sweet. That's the most memorable thing Rixstep has done in a very long time.

All the Rixstep "hate" is clues for the lead-in to mission 1 now. Get to solving, peeps. tongue

osnap

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December 1, 2007 12:18 am
definetheline

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Wait a sec. What's Rixstep?

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December 1, 2007 12:26 am
djmajickman

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Am I missing something I don't see a new briefing?

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December 1, 2007 12:32 am
definetheline

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OK, so the image is actually a text file.

http://myskitch.com/definetheline/20071130_00_00-20071130-193525.jpg

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December 1, 2007 12:37 am
AriX

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johnred wrote:
rampancy wrote:

Sweet. That's the most memorable thing Rixstep has done in a very long time.

All the Rixstep "hate" is clues for the lead-in to mission 1 now. Get to solving, peeps. tongue

Is this a joke or an actual heist? lol

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December 1, 2007 12:43 am
AriX

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definetheline wrote:

OK, so the image is actually a text file.

http://myskitch.com/definetheline/20071 … 193525.jpg

Actually, I don't think it's a text file, I think it's an image without an extension.

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December 1, 2007 12:45 am

Chris24

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f8c657883d4657b6541601d5111a3132 <--- Found in the code of http://rixstep.com/php.php (in the code of the page linked above...)

I don't know if its important.

December 1, 2007 12:45 am
definetheline

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f8c657883d4657b6541601d5111a3132

That was found in the source code of the page

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December 1, 2007 12:46 am
Maulsel

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What the hell, guys? Seriously, if this is real, the Directorate are being a bunch of idiots: seriously, read what's on that page.

Aren't a large number of MacHeist users in their early teens (or even earlier? Several were 12 during MH1... and there will likely be new recruits yet)? And the cussing on this page? Definitely not appropriate for that age group.

Edit the page to remove that.

December 1, 2007 12:51 am
johnred

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Jesus... I WAS KIDDING!

Rixstep is insane!

Don't go to his site!

There are no clues there!

Go outside for the weekend while we get MH2 up!!! tongue

John Casasanta
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December 1, 2007 1:03 am
definetheline

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http://rixstep.com/php.php

Hit Cmd-A on that page. Pretty niffty...

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December 1, 2007 1:05 am
Maulsel

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Okay. Thanks, at least.

Also, you know, when you say something like that, we tend to believe you. I think we need a [humor] or [sarcasm] tag. tongue

December 1, 2007 1:06 am
definetheline

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johnred wrote:

Jesus... I WAS KIDDING!

Rixstep is insane!

Don't go to his site!

There are no clues there!

Go outside for the weekend while we get MH2 up!!! tongue

Aww, you had to ruin our fun...

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December 1, 2007 1:06 am
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